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Southampton spying compendium thread

andy78 said:
Guaranteed that more will come out but about the games they did win and he's going to end up with a long ban as it is.
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Chances are:
It's been initiated, authorised and controlled by the manager.
Wider senior management at Southampton knew but turned a blind eye because of the outcomes.
The players knew - or at least the key players who were consulted and received the detailed instructions / information.
There was pressure placed on junior staff who were desperate to please and earn permanent posts.
There was a team of analysts and coaches meeting regularly to dissect the information.
It's been going on since the manager was first employed.
 
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Zak's Dad said:
Chances are:
It's been initiated, authorised and controlled by the manager.
Wider senior management at Southampton knew but turned a blind eye because of the outcomes.
The players knew - or at least the key players who were consulted and received the detailed instructions / information.
There was pressure placed on junior staff who were desperate to please and earn permanent posts.
There was a team of analysts and coaches meeting regularly to dissect the information.
It's been going on since the manager was first employed.
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If that can be proved then surely they're looking at another demotion and start next season in League 1?(If they're lucky).
 
cluckluc2 said:
I've got a text with some of the wording from the report, Im not sure where it's exactly been extracted from but it states:

"junior members of staff were put under pressure to carry out activities which they felt were morally wrong".

If that is true and in the offical report, then words fail me.
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The young lad should keep his job.
 
Zak's Dad said:
Chances are:
It's been initiated, authorised and controlled by the manager.
Wider senior management at Southampton knew but turned a blind eye because of the outcomes.
The players knew - or at least the key players who were consulted and received the detailed instructions / information.
There was pressure placed on junior staff who were desperate to please and earn permanent posts.
There was a team of analysts and coaches meeting regularly to dissect the information.
It's been going on since the manager was first employed.
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Yup
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I’d wager everyone at the club knew. Get them all sacked to fook
 
Pantomime Mackem has read the IDC written decision so you don’t have to:
  1. SFC were charged on 8 May in respect of MFC only. This is one day after the spying. The OUFC and ITFC charges were added later.
  2. Generally, there was a fair amount of pre-hearing knockabout procedural stuff which is of interest only to lawyers.
  3. SFC argued they should only be fined and/or have 2 points deducted, that they got no sporting advantage, and that they cooperated with the EFL - and actually volunteered the info which led to the Oxford and Ipswich charges. Although initially they said “not us, gov”.
  4. The intern gave evidence and said he was put under pressure and declined to do the Ipswich spying.
  5. In giving their reasons, the Commission lead with “Public confidence is paramount”.
  6. They say there was “a contrived and determined plan from the top down” and call the use of junior staff “particularly deplorable”
  7. The spying output was discussed with Eckert and others and Eckert gave a steer on what the spies should look for (Oxford -formation, Boro - availability of a key player).
  8. Subsequent results of the matches was irrelevant as SFC clearly sought to get a sporting advantage so whether they actually got one or not is irrelevant
  9. The Leeds case was under different rules
  10. Aggravating factor: it was the play offs, “one of the most prestigious and important” set of games in English football and whose integrity was “seriously violated” and so the breach deserves a serious sanction
  11. The others was -3 points per incident, mitigated down to -4 in total for the guilty plea and cooperation.
 
Yeah it's bad and it should be punished. BUT is it any worse than the constant cheating and play acting that we see from loads of premier league teams? I don't think so.

Arsenal are some of the biggest snide cheats with their constant fouling during corners and play acting, how many points has that gained them? Southampton are easy to make an example of because they're a tiny championship club by comparison.
 
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