Congratulations on promotion, you've clearly been by far the best team in the Championship over the course of the season. Unlike in the semi final last season where it was only for about 20 minutes.
I'm going to spoil it though.
Hill was a cheating wanker, he wasn't somebody I ever liked and what he did in 77 was the most blatant case of cheating in football I've seen and I'm in my seventies. He knew exactly what he was doing and he revelled in it. I'm not sure if you've seen the video but it's on YouTube, when we played down at Fulham in the 00's. He loves it, knowing he cheated. Not one bit of remorse. What gets me is Coventry closed ranks around him as well. That's why as well as the way your fans went on againt us with this plastic rivalry and chucking missiles into where my grandchild was enjoying their first game with his Mam and Dad but had to leave in tears, I'm sorry but I hope you go straight back down never to be seen again.
I actually like Lampard too despite many on here not being of the same thought. My daughter in law is related to Joe Cole and he brought Frank along to a wedding anniversary party about 10 years ago. He was absolutely spot on with everything he did. Stood for pictures, signed autographs, donated a signed England shirt of his to my daughter in laws charity as well as a quite substantial amount of money and he got a big round in the bar. I've respected him even more since then.
Just a shame it didn't work out at Derby, Chelsea or Everton for him or else he'd be nowhere near the CBS.
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You can. It’s the little bookmark next to the post numberDeal! Birmingham Children's Hospital for me. Not sure if you can bookmark posts on here but remind me when he's on 5 goals after 8 games
Astute
Central Defender
We're on our second manager in nearly 10 years.
The reason it's Lampard is he knows the game very well and has a lot of contacts. He mentions the names and the rest is done for him. Maybe if he knows the player he could get involved.
Where did King say we won't be spending?
He said we will do it the Coventry way. Do you want him to say we're going to be spending a lot so the selling clubs treat us like Wrexham?
1% chance of staying up
Why is that?
Nobody has an idea who we are going to sell or sign yet we're supposed to be going straight back down. That's deluded.
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The vast majority of managers knows the game well & has lots of contacts. That’s why they’re managing in the likes of the Premier League & Championship.
The fact that you’ve had Robins for nearly eight years means nothing. I think there’s only two managers in the football league served longer. One of them is at the current most successful club in the country.
It’s factual that clubs change manager much more frequently these days & not having a consistent structure in place that remains after a manager has gone is a recipe for disaster, as Sunderland found out the hard way & remedied. Managers will & should be part of the conversation about what is needed on the pitch & who is a possible target, but I replied to a post saying that “Lampard will say who he wants to sign and our owner will do the negotiations.” If it’s just Lampard picking out players to sign your club is 10/15/20 years behind the curve & will suffer because of it. Lampard’s main focus is next season. You need a longer term structure in place that is considering multiple seasons. Statistically, a manager that’s already had 18 months won’t be there much longer which means he’s planning for today not tomorrow
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Yes right now as it stands a 1% chance of staying up. Before any recruitment from anyone. What premier league side as it stands do you finish above?We're on our second manager in nearly 10 years.
The reason it's Lampard is he knows the game very well and has a lot of contacts. He mentions the names and the rest is done for him. Maybe if he knows the player he could get involved.
Where did King say we won't be spending?
He said we will do it the Coventry way. Do you want him to say we're going to be spending a lot so the selling clubs treat us like Wrexham?
1% chance of staying up
Why is that?
Nobody has an idea who we are going to sell or sign yet we're supposed to be going straight back down. That's deluded.
roppa
Striker
That last point is spot on, if, as Sunderland supporters, we’ve learned anything it’s don’t write anybody off in this division until the window shuts. My own two pennies worth is a few Coventry players could step up for some of the season, but they’ll need proper reinforcements all over the pitch, mind logically they’ve only got one team to better, they’re clearly better than Ipswich and the play off winner, they have to hope there’s a wolves knocking about next season.We're on our second manager in nearly 10 years.
The reason it's Lampard is he knows the game very well and has a lot of contacts. He mentions the names and the rest is done for him. Maybe if he knows the player he could get involved.
Where did King say we won't be spending?
He said we will do it the Coventry way. Do you want him to say we're going to be spending a lot so the selling clubs treat us like Wrexham?
1% chance of staying up
Why is that?
Nobody has an idea who we are going to sell or sign yet we're supposed to be going straight back down. That's deluded.
rentaghost
Striker
Odds are you are going down. There's no guarantee you finish top of the promoted 3 and then you have to make a case for getting ahead of team / teams that have invested hundreds of millions. If you can find a Granit Xhaka from somewhere and 160 millon then fair play. You need to sound 20-25 million or so just to stand still from last year on a keeper before you even start.We're on our second manager in nearly 10 years.
The reason it's Lampard is he knows the game very well and has a lot of contacts. He mentions the names and the rest is done for him. Maybe if he knows the player he could get involved.
Where did King say we won't be spending?
He said we will do it the Coventry way. Do you want him to say we're going to be spending a lot so the selling clubs treat us like Wrexham?
1% chance of staying up
Why is that?
Nobody has an idea who we are going to sell or sign yet we're supposed to be going straight back down. That's deluded.
As you say - don't write off anyone til the window shuts which is why they aren't clearly better than Ipswich or the play off winner. Last year the play off winner was closer in points to 17th place Oxford then they were to the automatics and they will probably finish top of the 3 promoted teams. There's no guarantee at all that Cov will finish top of the promotion 3 let alone stay up.
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Boris Bear
Striker
I guess they have to try and be optimistic
Early signs from their owner about doing it the coventry way are not encouraging. They need to transform and 'the coventry way' just won't do it.
They have some players who can make the step up...mason clark, rudoni and to a lesser extent wright. Doug King doing the negotuations is uninspiring. Ghisolfi made allnthe difference for us
Early signs from their owner about doing it the coventry way are not encouraging. They need to transform and 'the coventry way' just won't do it.
They have some players who can make the step up...mason clark, rudoni and to a lesser extent wright. Doug King doing the negotuations is uninspiring. Ghisolfi made allnthe difference for us
JL1985
Striker
I didn't realise they age of some of their players. I thought they had a really young squad for some reason.
Wylie Coyote
Striker
Coventry have been the best side in the Championship easily this season and are worthy Champions but the simple fact is they will have to spend good money and spent it really well or they will come back down, same as Ipswich and whoever wins the play offs
Lampard will also have to adapt how they play too or I think they will be too open.
@Astute I get you rate your players to make the step up but how many would have PL interest if you had not gained promotion this season? I rated a lot of our Championship side last season and wanted as many as possible to make the step up but if we didn't reshape the squad as much as we did we'd of gotten about 10 points
Lampard will also have to adapt how they play too or I think they will be too open.
@Astute I get you rate your players to make the step up but how many would have PL interest if you had not gained promotion this season? I rated a lot of our Championship side last season and wanted as many as possible to make the step up but if we didn't reshape the squad as much as we did we'd of gotten about 10 points
Definitely Maybe
Striker
Just to be clear, the message people are trying to give you is you need to invest and recruit well to stay up as you'll likely be relegated if you don't. Not 'you will definitely be relegated regardless' as obviously nobody knows who you will sign and you could pull it out the bag and have an amazing window, which is possible.We're on our second manager in nearly 10 years.
The reason it's Lampard is he knows the game very well and has a lot of contacts. He mentions the names and the rest is done for him. Maybe if he knows the player he could get involved.
Where did King say we won't be spending?
He said we will do it the Coventry way. Do you want him to say we're going to be spending a lot so the selling clubs treat us like Wrexham?
1% chance of staying up
Why is that?
Nobody has an idea who we are going to sell or sign yet we're supposed to be going straight back down. That's deluded.
You have a lot of confidence in your current team and manager and I'd expect that given you've just walked the league and are on a high. Some will step up, some won't. I think it's very optimistic and a bit naive to think as many will step up as you think. Maybe they will, who knows, but history suggests not. Leicester and Ipswich were promoted with 97 and 96 points, spent £100m+ and went straight down and Leicester had a lot of players with Prem experience. Burnley were promoted the year before with 101 points playing attacking football under Kompany, went straight back down, came up again with 100 points playing defensive football and came down again. It's a big step up and 'we'll score loads of goals because Lampard has coached them to shoot more, we score loads of GOTS contenders' sounds ominous.
I've defended Lampard a lot over the past couple of years, I think the criticism he's received is really harsh. I think he did an OK job at Derby and Everton without either improving or making them worse. He genuinely did well in his first season at Chelsea considering the transfer ban and sale of Hazard. His downfall at Chelsea was failing to integrate the new signings in his second season, or rather, they had two years worth of money to spend, signed a boatload of players and he quite publicly fucked off the ones he didn't like and couldn't manage a dressing room consisting of lots of egos and some unhappy players who he'd hung out to dry. Lesson to learn for him there considering you'll surely be quite active this summer. He was on a hiding to nothing in his second spell given the players had mentally checked out. He's clearly improved you though, it's obviously the most impressive work of his managerial career. If he goes into next season playing the same way without tightening up the defence I think you'll be crucified and I'd be very wary of 'Lampard says who he wants, the chairman negotiatiates'. I'm sure he is well connected but the Prem is several levels above that and Premier League clubs have much more sophisticated networks - we appointed Roma's Sporting Director for example who led our recruitment and we still have a long way to go. Recruitment is a specialism, the days of the manager leading and sending scouts across the country on a retainer are long gone.
It's all a wait and see anyway. Who knows what will happen over the summer and next season. It's probably inevitable we'll play you at the CBS early on and lose but nevermind. It just comes across a bit naive when you come on here about 25 years away from the top flight reeling off a list of players who'll step up and you'll score all these goals because of a manager who is viewed as a failure in all three of his Premier League jobs will use his contacts to sign players and has coached you to attack.
rentaghost
Striker
If for example they have 100 million to pend as Burnley did last year. 25% of that will probably be spent on Rushworth just to stand still.
I think West Ham staying up is the best chance for promoted clubs. From my understanding they have to offload this summer rather than invest.
I think West Ham staying up is the best chance for promoted clubs. From my understanding they have to offload this summer rather than invest.
snarlz II
Winger
Looking more like Spurs survive unfortunately and probably won’t be anywhere near the relegation next season.
Sure the same will have been said last year.
Definitely Maybe
Striker
You're probably right about West Ham but on the flip side, they finally bought a decent striker in January and have taken 22 points from their last 14 games since losing to Wolves and Forest. That would put them 6th in a hypothetical league from January onwards, although Disasi has been a big player for them and is only on loan. From past experience (Allardyce season) I know it's not as simple as 'period of decent form = all issues resolved', but I think us and Leeds were fortunate in a way that the last 6 promoted clubs were so shit. I think some of the established clubs possibly got a bit complacent in assuming the promoted 3 would drop again and we were able to take advantage early on whilst the bottom 5 became cut adrift from the rest. There's probably at least 4 mid table clubs looking for new managers in the summer so maybe one of those will appoint a duffer and get dragged into it.
Agreed. Quite like FL, but it all comes down to the owner coming up with a few 15-20m players. Reading between the lines he’s not gonna do that so a season more like Burnley than us will be in store. Having said that, you need to be better than three teams, so anything is possible. But forest and spurs almost certainly won’t be down there next year….
For me they only need to stay ahead of the two behind them and hope one of the teams like Spurs / West ham continue on their kamikazzee inevitable sooner or later flush down to championship - we were like the turd that wouldnt flush for 3-4 years eventually you get done. Its very doable if the correct investment is made, one of the things that screwed Burnley was the buy if promoted clauses on a few of their players so essentially couldnt upgrade the team.
If he becomes available, I'd be more than happy for us to sign Disasi.
