No,it's irrational because they're fanatics. Live and let live and avoid personal references such as childish, moaners, w**kers- is that a voice of fair play?
The big teams are favoured by weaker referees,of whom there are many.
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Umpires
- Thread starter Raymondo
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The big teams are favoured by weaker referees,of whom there are many.
Dexter
Striker
I bet there’s no way it’s a cosy job with no accountability. These umpires will know if they fuck up one too many times they’ll be off the circuit and have to find another job to work. They’ll be paid an absolute pittance in relative terms as it is.
Very easy to spout shite from the sidelines when you don’t have to and have never done the job.
Very easy to spout shite from the sidelines when you don’t have to and have never done the job.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Except when Sunderland were ‘the big team’ in league one of course.
Refs then changed totally and were strong against the big crowd and big team
Well exactly you just been fair mate and showing some common sense
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They're paid in one of 3 classes £40k,£60k and £100k per annum- most wouldn't class that as a pittance.Can't recall any umpire being withdrawn from the list other than compulsory at 65 years age. That suggests that there isn't any effective monitoring and hence it qualifies as a cosy job.Many of those "spouting shite" will probably have umpired at some stage and have played and watched the game over several years.The general standard of umpiring at good club level has been
He's shown a complete lack of knowledge of the terms and conditions of umpiring.
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Dexter
Striker
Or maybe, just maybe these people are genuinely the best umpires in the country and they don’t get every decision exactly spot on.
Voice of fair play
Striker
He has made a mistake with one look and a spilt second to decide.
It’s a mistake but a understandable one.
They're recruited in the main immediately from playing the 1st class game without any formal training,generally after a year umpiring what was minor counties. Very few are recruited from having experience at club level. It is,therefore,very much a closed shop. Such a closed system can't possibly be recruiting the best. No one would realistically expect them to get every decision correct, many decisions are subjective, but equally that doesn't make them exempt from criticism. Valid,justifiable,question of decisions doesn't equate to talking shite.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Of course it doesn’t and not one person has suggested otherwise.
But that’s the problem they never is valid justifiable debate about officials.
It’s over the top nonsense, from a certain section but that’s ok apparently because people are passionate
I was referring to the poster,not an umpire,with that comment.
brains
Striker
I thought it looked out
Hit in front of middle and leg and was straightening.
Either way, "Poor Zak" couldve kept it out if he timed it right and stopped his head falling away. Probably would've scored another 4 then got out anyway, it just shortened his agony.
You think? Looks to me like it's sliding way down the leg side...might hit a 4th stump
...Doesn't look like it's straightening at all to me...
Shocker but not sure it warrants a tweet like that...
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Sorry VoP,the debate here is solely about umpiring. I'm trying to promote genuine debate about the standard of umpiring at professional level.
There are some ott comment from passionate followers - it's not OK but it's understandable.
But Personal insults e.g. Childish, narrow-minded, w**nkers are acceptable?and not over the top nonsense!
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Voice of fair play
Striker
Like I said it’s great to have a reasoned debate on here about anything including standards on umpiring.
But when you see things which I have before at 11.15 in the morning on the first decision of the day calling a umpire a fat useless wanker or even worse still insulting them days later for honest decisions in real time
I make no apologies having a go.
You may think that’s understandable I think it’s been a wanker.
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Your entitled your opinion but how you can reconcile criticising a poster for using that reprehensible term and yet use it yourself is beyond me,especially when you're adopting the moral high tone on criticism.
Voice of fair play
Striker
I don’t see it that way if somebody calls or insults somebody else totally unjustly for simply trying their best under proven difficult circumstances
I have no qualms telling them soo.
Inside Forward
Winger
I mean I was suspecting an absolute shocker before I clicked on the video but, on first viewing is it really a howler? It might be just missing leg but it’s hardly an awful decision.
TheRey
Striker
You've become very aggressive of late. Everything OK at home, chum?
Voice of fair play
Striker
Never changed mate just authentic in treating people who it’s been proven having a very difficult job with respect.
I am worse at defending refs on the football thread
Raymondo
Central Defender
You’ve completely derailed this thread with your bizarre crusade against ‘fanatics’. The post was about a former professional cricketer bemoaning umpiring standards and a lack of accountability.
Nobody made the point about bias towards or against their team until you came along. I stated that I felt Durham had received some shockers, but at no point did I suggest it was because there’s bias or an agenda against us. Not once.
What on earth are you trying to prove here? Seriously?
I’m with ‘Mr Rafiq’ when he asks for better standards of officiating and accountability. I don’t think anyone who cares about sport can disagree with that.
Nah,you're lowering yourself to the base level that you're criticising them for being. However,each to his own.
Raymondo
Central Defender
I’m sorry but I’m not having that as an excuse, I’ve never been a professional sportsman either (unfortunately) but I can still give my opinion on their performance - if we couldn’t, we’d have f***all to talk about.
Same goes for chefs, musicians, actors… you don’t have to be in the industry to give your opinion on it. If I eat a shite meal my tastebuds will let me know. Just because I’ve never been a chef doesn’t mean I can’t criticise a meal I’ve paid for if I think it’s shite.
Funnily enough, if I said I thought umpires were mint you wouldn’t tell me I can’t praise them because I’ve never been one.
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