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Ashes Inquest


Jennings was his practise partner when in Pakistan but they don't appear to have appointed a successor to French. No wonder Smith,a comparatively inexperienced test wicketkeeper, looked jaded during the Ashes. Incredibly unprofessional.
Aidan11 said:
Surely this must be a joke. If not then its another case of the England management taking the piss out of England fans.

What next? Phil Tuffnell England batting coach?
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Geoffrey Boycott has come out with some very strong words against the ECB after they decided to keep the same leadership in place following England's embarrassing 1-4 Ashes defeat in Australia.

The legendary former England opener did not hold back. He questioned ECB chief executive Richard Gould directly, saying: "What world is he living in? Is he unaware of the criticism coming from most former England players and cricket writers? Even Gould admitted that retaining Brendon McCullum would not be a popular call — and he is absolutely right."

Boycott pointed out that Rob Key, England’s managing director of men’s cricket, has to take a big share of the blame. He wrote that Key must shoulder much of the responsibility for letting the problems become so deeply rooted in the coaching group, the players, and the support staff. After all, Key appointed McCullum and is the one ultimately in charge — so he cannot simply stand by and do nothing.

He went on to ask the tough questions that many fans are thinking: "Like many supporters, fans are questioning how McCullum and Key could make so many poor decisions during the Australian tour, yet the ECB’s chief executive believes no changes are necessary. Where is the sense of accountability?"
Boycott warned that things might not improve, saying: "Perhaps promises were made that things would improve, but leopards don't change their spots. It appears England will continue with the same approach to Test cricket."

He added that England might look good this summer by beating New Zealand and probably Pakistan, allowing the CEO to pat himself on the back for sticking with Rob Key and Brendon McCullum. But what fans will never forget is how the poor leadership from Key and McCullum wasted England’s best chance to beat Australia in Australia — when the Aussies were vulnerable and there to be beaten. An opportunity like that does not come around often.

Boycott expressed real doubt about the future: "The real concern now is whether they can admit their mistakes in Australia, listen to constructive criticism from former players and fans, and raise their standards enough to win the Ashes at home in 2027. I’m not convinced, are you?"

#CricketNews #EnglandCricket #BrendonMcCullum #Ashes #ECB #RobKey #GeoffreyBoycott #TestCricket #EnglandVsAustralia
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Geoffrey Boycott has come out with some very strong words against the ECB after they decided to keep the same leadership in place following England's embarrassing 1-4 Ashes defeat in Australia.

The legendary former England opener did not hold back. He questioned ECB chief executive Richard Gould directly, saying: "What world is he living in? Is he unaware of the criticism coming from most former England players and cricket writers? Even Gould admitted that retaining Brendon McCullum would not be a popular call — and he is absolutely right."

Boycott pointed out that Rob Key, England’s managing director of men’s cricket, has to take a big share of the blame. He wrote that Key must shoulder much of the responsibility for letting the problems become so deeply rooted in the coaching group, the players, and the support staff. After all, Key appointed McCullum and is the one ultimately in charge — so he cannot simply stand by and do nothing.

He went on to ask the tough questions that many fans are thinking: "Like many supporters, fans are questioning how McCullum and Key could make so many poor decisions during the Australian tour, yet the ECB’s chief executive believes no changes are necessary. Where is the sense of accountability?"
Boycott warned that things might not improve, saying: "Perhaps promises were made that things would improve, but leopards don't change their spots. It appears England will continue with the same approach to Test cricket."

He added that England might look good this summer by beating New Zealand and probably Pakistan, allowing the CEO to pat himself on the back for sticking with Rob Key and Brendon McCullum. But what fans will never forget is how the poor leadership from Key and McCullum wasted England’s best chance to beat Australia in Australia — when the Aussies were vulnerable and there to be beaten. An opportunity like that does not come around often.

Boycott expressed real doubt about the future: "The real concern now is whether they can admit their mistakes in Australia, listen to constructive criticism from former players and fans, and raise their standards enough to win the Ashes at home in 2027. I’m not convinced, are you?"

#CricketNews #EnglandCricket #BrendonMcCullum #Ashes #ECB #RobKey #GeoffreyBoycott #TestCricket #EnglandVsAustralia
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He is spot on.
 
Inside Forward said:
I think the assumption that England will beat New Zealand is a very dangerous one. That is a very good Kiwi team more than capable of winning a series here if England don’t wise up.
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The kiwis are 3rd in ICC test rankings and England are 8th. So if we were to beat them it could be considered an achievement but it depends at what level you set the ladder. New Zealand have a population one tenth of ours and their resources/finances miniscule compared with England's. We rarely lose at home, true, but equally we even more rarely beat at home the 2 nations on a par with us financially i.e. India and Australia.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Geoffrey Boycott has come out with some very strong words against the ECB after they decided to keep the same leadership in place following England's embarrassing 1-4 Ashes defeat in Australia.

The legendary former England opener did not hold back. He questioned ECB chief executive Richard Gould directly, saying: "What world is he living in? Is he unaware of the criticism coming from most former England players and cricket writers? Even Gould admitted that retaining Brendon McCullum would not be a popular call — and he is absolutely right."

Boycott pointed out that Rob Key, England’s managing director of men’s cricket, has to take a big share of the blame. He wrote that Key must shoulder much of the responsibility for letting the problems become so deeply rooted in the coaching group, the players, and the support staff. After all, Key appointed McCullum and is the one ultimately in charge — so he cannot simply stand by and do nothing.

He went on to ask the tough questions that many fans are thinking: "Like many supporters, fans are questioning how McCullum and Key could make so many poor decisions during the Australian tour, yet the ECB’s chief executive believes no changes are necessary. Where is the sense of accountability?"
Boycott warned that things might not improve, saying: "Perhaps promises were made that things would improve, but leopards don't change their spots. It appears England will continue with the same approach to Test cricket."

He added that England might look good this summer by beating New Zealand and probably Pakistan, allowing the CEO to pat himself on the back for sticking with Rob Key and Brendon McCullum. But what fans will never forget is how the poor leadership from Key and McCullum wasted England’s best chance to beat Australia in Australia — when the Aussies were vulnerable and there to be beaten. An opportunity like that does not come around often.

Boycott expressed real doubt about the future: "The real concern now is whether they can admit their mistakes in Australia, listen to constructive criticism from former players and fans, and raise their standards enough to win the Ashes at home in 2027. I’m not convinced, are you?"

#CricketNews #EnglandCricket #BrendonMcCullum #Ashes #ECB #RobKey #GeoffreyBoycott #TestCricket #EnglandVsAustralia
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The bloke who, faced with an Ashes series with Lillee and Thomson in their pomp, either shat his pants and stayed at home, or, in the more generous interpretation, threw a tantrum at not being captain and stayed at home. I’ll listen to views of those that fronted up when it was their turn, but he can sod right off.
 
Fleagle said:
The bloke who, faced with an Ashes series with Lillee and Thomson in their pomp, either shat his pants and stayed at home, or, in the more generous interpretation, threw a tantrum at not being captain and stayed at home. I’ll listen to views of those that fronted up when it was their turn, but he can sod right off.
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To give balance he did front up to fearsome Windies attacks,played in 100+ tests, scoring 8000+ test runs averaging 47+ so he is well qualified to speak on the issue.
I'd argue that he is the epitome of what the current England side is lacking.
And I don't particularly like the guy as an individual and he did sulk after not getting the captaincy.
And I suspect most cricketers shat themselves,at the prospect of facing Lillee and Thomson
 
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Fleagle said:
The bloke who, faced with an Ashes series with Lillee and Thomson in their pomp, either shat his pants and stayed at home, or, in the more generous interpretation, threw a tantrum at not being captain and stayed at home. I’ll listen to views of those that fronted up when it was their turn, but he can sod right off.
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I don't think you could ever accuse him of lacking courage mind. Granted he did throw his toys out over Denness being appointed captain ahead of him in 1974, but he was still facing Garner/Holding/Croft/Roberts over in the Caribbean after passing his 40th birthday.

His record against quick bowling was very good, and he showed no obvious weakness against any of the pacemen of his era.
 
Fleagle said:
The bloke who, faced with an Ashes series with Lillee and Thomson in their pomp, either shat his pants and stayed at home, or, in the more generous interpretation, threw a tantrum at not being captain and stayed at home. I’ll listen to views of those that fronted up when it was their turn, but he can sod right off.
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Whatever your views on Boycott the individual I'm sure you will concur with-
Boycott expressed real doubt about the future: "The real concern now is whether they can admit their mistakes in Australia, listen to constructive criticism from former players and fans, and raise their standards enough to win the Ashes at home in 2027. I’m not convinced, are you?"
 
scotch said:
Topley criticising them now.

Seems like anybody who's been dropped from the squad, doesn't get a look in or communicated with what they need to show to get back in.
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I would have thought Topley still had a chance of being in the white ball squads.

This is crazy. Current players openly having a go at the England management. Respectable ex-players having a go at the England management. Many fans on social media having a go at the England management.

But the ECB think they're doing g a good job.
 
Aidan11 said:
I would have thought Topley still had a chance of being in the white ball squads.

This is crazy. Current players openly having a go at the England management. Respectable ex-players having a go at the England management. Many fans on social media having a go at the England management.

But the ECB think they're doing g a good job.
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I've a suspicion that it's player power I e. The current squad that's helped McCullum to be retained.
 
4 players recently jettisoned all being very publicly critical of the regime. Some will say its bitterness, but 3 of them certainly stood a chance of getting a recall you'd think. Brave move from them to basically ex communicate themselves while this regime is in charge so that says a lot about the current culture and the lack of communication.
 
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