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Legends Way fan vote: choose the 14 legends


Botchie said:
There's two of them who captained their country, won domestic, European and international honours too.
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IMO that's irrelevant for this exercise as it wasn't achieved at Sunderland.

I think it'd be a massive shame if someone who has had a significant contribution actually to/with the club loses out to someone who's achievements were elsewhere.

Just my opinion and I'm sure plenty will disagree but as an example, having Jill Scott over say a Doig or Allen (again just an example), would be utter madness.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
I wish they hadn't done a fan vote in all honesty and let Rob Mason choose! We're no doubt going to see the classic recency bias and the fact people don't know a lot about our history understandably.
I really hope we can celebrate our grand history, and shout about stuff beyond '73! Some names for people to consider (imo).
  1. Raich Carter is regarded as the greatest player ever to play for our fantastic team. A massively gifted inside forward who captained the club to the 1936 league title and the 1937 FA Cup. A local lad too.
  2. Len Shackleton, "the Clown Prince of Football," was a maverick entertainer who dazzled crowds at Roker Park with outrageous skill and an maveric streak that made him a fans' favourite but kept him on the wrong side of the football establishment, earning him far fewer England caps than he deserved
  3. Ted Doig was a Scottish goalkeeper who joined Sunderland in 1890 and spent 14 years at the club, winning the league title and establishing himself as one of the finest keepers of the Victorian era.
  4. Johnny Campbell, another Scot, was a prolific striker during the "Team of All the Talents" period in the 1890s when Sunderland won three league championships in four years, a dominance that has never really been matched.
  5. Charlie Buchan arrived in 1911 and went on to score 224 goals for the club across 16 years, making him one of the greatest forwards in English football before the Second World War
  6. Bobby Gurney holds the club's all-time scoring record with 228 goals between 1925 and 1939, and was the spearhead of the 1936 championship and 1937 FA Cup winning sides.
  7. George Holley was a skillful inside forward who scored over 150 goals in the decade before the First World War, won 10 England caps, and is probably the most unjustly forgotten great player in Sunderland's history imo.
  8. James Allan, founded the club in 1879 as a schoolteacher, making him the reason any of this exists at all.

I imagine Quinny is in with a shout, and Gary Bennett and Super Kev - as they're within our lifetime. And Hurley is obviously amazing too - but he does have the gates?
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Ah damn I didn't know James Allan.
The Situation said:
IMO that's irrelevant for this exercise as it wasn't achieved at Sunderland.

I think it'd be a massive shame if someone who has had a significant contribution actually to/with the club loses out to someone who's achievements were elsewhere.

Just my opinion and I'm sure plenty will disagree but as an example, having Jill Scott over say a Doig or Allen (again just an example), would be utter madness.
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Scott is someone the whole of Sunderland should be proud of. She made a big difference in creating the current women's game in england.

I understand her achievements weren't necessarily at Sunderland afc
 
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parsonjohn1985 said:
Scott is someone the whole of Sunderland should be proud of. She made a big difference in creating the current women's game in england.

I understand her achievements weren't necessarily at Sunderland afc
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I don't disagree, but is that worthy of a legends stone at the SoL ahead of people who have made a significant contribution to or with the club?

Not for me personally.

Someone like Henderson would be more "worthy" IMO considering he played for SAFC for about 10 minutes in comparison to Jill's 2 minutes, and he has also gone on to achieve great success for club and country, but he rightly haven't been given as an option.
 
The Situation said:
IMO that's irrelevant for this exercise as it wasn't achieved at Sunderland.

I think it'd be a massive shame if someone who has had a significant contribution actually to/with the club loses out to someone who's achievements were elsewhere.

Just my opinion and I'm sure plenty will disagree but as an example, having Jill Scott over say a Doig or Allen (again just an example), would be utter madness.
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Already responded to others.
 
The Situation said:
I don't disagree, but is that worthy of a legends stone at the SoL ahead of people who have made a significant contribution to or with the club?

Not for me personally.

Someone like Henderson would be more "worthy" IMO considering he played for SAFC for about 10 minutes in comparison to Jill's 2 minutes, and he has also gone on to achieve great success for club and country, but he rightly haven't been given as an option.
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I dont mean she helped lead england womens team. I meant she helped the game in general. She's done way more for womens football than Henderson has for men's football
 
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