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Livingstone playing some shots


It is brave of him to speak out but it's good that he has.

Shows that this current England set-up is a complete joke.
 
Why isn't it?
I’d argue it is true. Attacking at all times isn’t courage if it’s reckless. They rarely look like battling for a draw (Jamie Smith at Edgbaston still pisses me off).
If posters wish to defend England for their reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off it they have to give reasons for that defense if their claims are to have any credibility.
Why isn't it?
I’d argue it is true. Attacking at all times isn’t courage if it’s reckless. They rarely look like battling for a draw (Jamie Smith at Edgbaston still pisses me off).
If posters wish to defend England for their reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off it they have to give reasons for that defense if their claims are to have any credibility.
Otherwise it implies trokling.
Trolling NOT trolking
 
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If posters wish to defend England for their reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off it they have to give reasons for that defense if their claims are to have any credibility.


If posters wish to defend England for their reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off it they have to give reasons for that defense if their claims are to have any credibility.
Otherwise it implies trokling.
Trolling NOT trolking
Still this tedious justification stuff you don't do with others yet you don't target people
 
Still this tedious justification stuff you don't do with others yet you don't target people
You're very much mistaking.Rather it is you who are being confrontational. Again, I repeat- We're on totally different wavelengths as you are never prepared to enter into rational discussion. Perfectly reasonable to request justification for a viewpoint being contradicted -It's not personal..It's a discussion forum. So if you wish to discuss -How can you defend England's reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off the field?
 
You're very much mistaking.Rather it is you who are being confrontational. Again, I repeat- We're on totally different wavelengths as you are never prepared to enter into rational discussion. Perfectly reasonable to request justification for a viewpoint being contradicted -It's not personal..It's a discussion forum. So if you wish to discuss -How can you defend England's reckless batting on the field and abhorrent behaviour off the field?
You said the justification stuff totally unprevoked and you don't say it to others, where have I defended wreckless batting
 
Showed plenty of courage narrowly getting beat chasing 250 in T20 , reckless batting is a slightly different point to showing courage in a game
You're fully entitled to that point of view given you've offered some evidence. I think the lack of courage was referencing the spineless surrender in the Ashes e.g. Surrendering in 2 days.
Pity the fielding was so spineless in that T20 game otherwise we might well have won it.
We differ in our viewpoints, that's not a problem, I simply ask you to justify if you contradict - And I do that with any poster.
Here's to open,friendly discussion in the forthcoming season.
 
You're fully entitled to that point of view given you've offered some evidence. I think the lack of courage was referencing the spineless surrender in the Ashes e.g. Surrendering in 2 days.
Pity the fielding was so spineless in that T20 game otherwise we might well have won it.
We differ in our viewpoints, that's not a problem, I simply ask you to justify if you contradict - And I do that with any poster.
Here's to open,friendly discussion in the forthcoming season.
I haven't seen you use the word justification for anyone but fair enough
 
Reckless,by definition, equates to Lack of bottle ,courage or spineless.
Which you claim to be untrue.
Think you need a new dictionary. Cowardly is the word that, by definition, equates to lack of bottle, courage or spineless, surely.

Recklessness is a different concept entirely. And not related to cowardice at all. Partly the reverse in fact. You can have reckless acts of courage, but reckless cowardice is pretty much an oxymoron.
 
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