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Xhaka not happy with the early leavers


dred73 said:
I don't go down after the 45, but if I did I would be alert of the time.
Walking up to my seat with my back to the game is not for me.
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if you went down on the refs whistle you struggle to go to the toilet in the 15 minutes, let alone buying a beer if you want one.
 
People are entitled to leave after 1 minute if they like. If you pay for a ticket you can use the turnstile as a revolving door if that floats your boat.

But it's daft to pretend that a mass exodus on 85 minutes isn't a problem. It's a message to the team - and the away team - that we think the game is lost. Thousands of people waving the white flag. If you think that doesn't take the wind out of the player's sails, then you must have a very low opinion of our support.

It's no coincidence that Ballard and Watson's goals were scored in front of full stands. When we went 0-2 down against Bournemouth, a full stadium roared the team back to a winning position.
 
Safc98 said:
Early leavers are right. They can leave early if they want. But it is objectively shit support, makes the club look shit and doesn’t send a great message to players and prospective future players. If they don’t care then that’s also fine, but don’t then moan when we never kick on.
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This and the "job" to support. I don't think supporting is a job; there is no right or wrong way within reason to participate. It's certainly not the early leavers' fault if the club's trajectory goes down.
 
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Coeus said:
This and the "job" to support. I don't think supporting is a job; there is no right or wrong way within reason to participate. It's certainly not the early leavers' fault if the club's trajectory goes down.
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I’d rather have someone who sung their heart out for 85 minutes then left, than someone who sits in silence for the full game, but that’s just me.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
It’s not a 10 minute delay though. Leaving on 85 as opposed to full time, can save you up to an hour, depending on where you live.

Again, I stay til the end of the match every week but I can see why people do it.
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Save an hour to do what though?

Leaving on 85 means you miss the most important 10 mins of the one of the most important 2 hours of the week - or at least I'd assume that's the case for most people going to the games.

Let's assume we're talking about who don't have a sick relative / work / a flight etc., and we're talking about the vast majority who beat the traffic to save 20, 30, 40 or 60 minutes on a leisurely Saturday evening. What have they gained, really? An extra pint? A bit longer watching Paul Merson's analysis on Sky Sports?
 
not spavin said:
Save an hour to do what though?

Leaving on 85 means you miss the most important 10 mins of the one of the most important 2 hours of the week - or at least I'd assume that's the case for most people going to the games.

Let's assume we're talking about who don't have a sick relative / work / a flight etc., and we're talking about the vast majority who beat the traffic to save 20, 30, 40 or 60 minutes on a leisurely Saturday evening. What have they gained, really? An extra pint? A bit longer watching Paul Merson's analysis on Sky Sports?
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Are you seriously telling people how they should spend an hour? 😄
 
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DonaldDownTheWing said:
Wow. I hadn’t seen that article but I’ve read it now. The first bit by Ian Bendelow is way OTT and certainly not the way to change people’s behaviours.

“If you’re offended by any of the below and leave early – good. Because I mean every word.
And if you don’t like it? Piss off and support Newcastle.
Three years ago a survey was carried out to find out which club had the most “early leavers.” Interestingly, the top six places were taken by the clubs considered the “big six.”
The reason why, I suspect, is that there are far more casual fans of their clubs who go as tourists, on a corporate ticket or simply because the wins don’t mean as much.
Though I’d be willing to bet if this survey were carried out across the last three home games, Sunderland AFC would come out so far in front that it would be like the equivalent of winning the league in November.

It might be an excuse when the club is floundering at the bottom of the league, but when the stadium is emptying in front of a team that is the best we’ve had in decades, it’s a terrible look. The players notice it, senior club officials notice it, and it’s talked about; don’t worry about that. They see you, we all see you.
Rumours are that Granit Xhaka noticed fans flocking to the exit, in a mass movement that would have put the great Serengeti wildebeest migration to shame. When other players come to him, or any other senior player and ask whether they should sign for Sunderland, I’ll tell you now, the kind of nonsense witnessed against Fulham and Brighton will stick in their minds.
To all those early leavers, I ask you this: why do you do it? You actively harm the club’s chances of getting a result. The crowd can and does have an impact. Are you desperate to get the number 56 bus back to Concord? Do you like riding up front on the Metro and insist on nabbing that seat? Or are you just so desperate for a pint of Carling (because that’s what early leavers drink) that you just have to leave?

So, unless there is a good reason, your behaviour is pathetic. I hate it, and I hate you for doing it. It adds to the frustration felt in a game that is already maddening, as it was against Brighton. It also means I need to stand up to see the action.
It dispels the notion that this is a great club, with passionate fans that create atmospheres that make opposition clubs not want to come here. Conversely, it tells the away side that after 85 minutes, it’s job done, because these melts are a soft touch.
The club cannot call you out, but you should be held to account. You should have to scan your season card when you leave the stadium, so the club knows who is taking an early dart, and the bunch of helmets who do leave early should go to the back of the queue when it comes to away tickets, as well as for Wembley. You should have to pay more on renewal. You should get letters from the club reminding you of your responsibilities.
You leave a match early, you’re basically a fair-weather fan, with no cojones to see the game out. And you probably just don’t care as much. If that is the case, please – don’t bother coming in the first place.”
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What utter tosh. Bloke needs to get a life away from footy and his xbox no doubt.
Think the real reason he's upset is "It also means I need to stand up to see the action."........probably disrupts his blanket.
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DonaldDownTheWing said:
I’d rather have someone who sung their heart out for 85 minutes then left, than someone who sits in silence for the full game, but that’s just me.
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Exactly...always in the ground 20 minutes early, never go to the toilet or bar whilst inside. Sing meself hoarse for 90 minutes then walk down to the tunnel with 1-2 minutes left of extra time and see it out whilst not blocking anyones view. Clap and cheer my appreciation on said final whistle and off I trot.
Happy days
 
bobster999 said:
Are you seriously telling people how they should spend an hour? 😄
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People can do precisely what they like. They can save two hours by leaving at half time if that's what turns them on.

I'm just suggesting that "saving time" isn't necessarily an end to itself, and that the "spending time" bit is often more important.
 
Coeus said:
This and the "job" to support. I don't think supporting is a job; there is no right or wrong way within reason to participate. It's certainly not the early leavers' fault if the club's trajectory goes down.
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It’s not a job but it is definitely linked. It looks shit and it is shit. Our support, while large in numbers, is crap as soon as we aren’t winning.
 
DieselBert said:
Don't blame him. Problem drinkers who cant go an hour without a pint. Stay and cheer the team you support
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People more arsed about a pint than watching last 20 minutes of a match. Tragic.

Plenty time before and after.

It’s very much a north east thing mind. Many can’t fathom having 9 pints on a match day rather than 10.
 
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