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Jared Gillet

Geras said:
Yeah that 1950's VAR was shit wasnt it and i hear Mombassa FC got fucked over at the weekend again .
The PL is the worlds association football flagship the European equivelant to the NFL. Ok down the leagues you take what you can get , you dont like it , you moan about it but your assertion holds , shit happens .
This is the PL , if the man on the spot needs better help , better tech whatever he should get it or there should be greater oversight , in game appeals , retrospectives etc . And when we see some shite like the weekend there should be proper inquiry into all aspects and all possibilities ,not just a " well he's ok sometimes " .
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Once again mate my point is about real time mistakes on the field of play.

I accept criticism about VAR and I accept criticism it needs to be better in the richest league in the world.

My point is real time mistakes will always happen, always have in whatever era and whatever country,

Imo real time mistakes should be accepted as part and parcel of the game but not VAR mistakes as a world of difference between the two.

So see your point with VAR but absolutely not with decisions made at the time on the field of play
 
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I think referees aren't out to get us. Other fans do it all the time, united Liverpool, arsenal even our gimpy cousins up the road (and the two headed ones down south)
However I think it's clear he's clearly not get the bollocks to referee a game at this level or at least have the metal to call a penalty that early on in the game, same with when he didn't understand the intensity of a game against boro when he sent off Neil for just going "for fucks sake' and he's proven time and again he makes baffling decisions and not just at Sunderland

Throw it in the newbie on VAR who probably was deer caught in the headlights at having a big decision for the first time and there we go
 
Voice of fair play said:
Once again mate my point is about real time mistakes on the field of play.

I accept criticism about VAR and I accept criticism it needs to be better in the richest league in the world.

My point is real time mistakes will always happen, always have in whatever era and whatever country,

Imo real time mistakes should be accepted as part and parcel of the game but not VAR mistakes as a world of difference between the two
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Theres real time mistakes and theres real time mistakes though isnt there . When theyre paired with a VAR error like that questions need to be asked and I mean asked ..not on the SMB or even rhetorically on media ..asked .. directly..and answers challanged
 
Voice of fair play said:
Once again mate my point is about real time mistakes on the field of play.

I accept criticism about VAR and I accept criticism it needs to be better in the richest league in the world.

My point is real time mistakes will always happen, always have in whatever era and whatever country,

Imo real time mistakes should be accepted as part and parcel of the game but not VAR mistakes as a world of difference between the two.

So see your point with VAR but absolutely not with decisions made at the time on the field of play
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Agree. He was stitched up by his colleagues who should have been helping him.
 
Geras said:
Theres real time mistakes and theres real time mistakes though isnt there . When theyre paired with a VAR error like that questions need to be asked and I mean asked ..not on the SMB or even rhetorically on media ..asked .. directly..and answers challanged
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I think that is difference with our debate, I am treating them totally different.

one is proven to be extremely difficult.

One should be much easier for obvious reasons.

You are putting them together.


gatopreto said:
Agree. He was stitched up by his colleagues who should have been helping him.
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Exactly the VAR ref should have said ‘ hang on mate’ you only had one look.

I have a perfect look, had the chance to see it again and can see it was a definite push.

‘ You totally wrong’ overturn your decision.

He clearly didn’t have the bottle to do that and that the reason rather than some mysterious reason of getting at Sunderland
 
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rob79safc said:
like you say mate it’s the same 3 every week whining on and on about refs who are poor and trying to find a defence for them when there isn’t one,out of the 3 ,one’s a mag,one doesn’t gan to games and the other apparently gans but must have stevie wonders eyes …🤷🏻‍♂️ all 3 of them have never played,coached or reffed to any significance or importance but seem to have an opinion after watching a few highlights on everything 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
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Which one is the Mag?
gatopreto said:
Agree. He was stitched up by his colleagues who should have been helping him.
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He was less than 10 yards from the penalty with a clear view and he still didn't give it, no excuse for that.
 
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Johnny Gently said:
Which one is the Mag?

He was less than 10 yards from the penalty with a clear view and he still didn't give it, no excuse for that.
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Difficult to make an excuse for him, I agree.

Imagine watching that multiple times with the benefit of different angles and speeds. It makes it so much easier.

if VAR operators did their job we wouldn't be talking about him.
 
Voice of fair play said:
I think that is difference with our debate, I am treating them totally different.

one is proven to be extremely difficult.

One should be much easier for obvious reasons.

You are putting them together.



Exactly the VAR ref should have said ‘ hang on mate’ you only had one look.

I have a perfect look, had the chance to see it again and can see it was a definite push.

‘ You totally wrong’ overturn your decision.

He clearly didn’t have the bottle to do that and that the reason rather than some mysterious reason of getting at Sunderland
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On Saturday they went together .
 
The only thing most of us want from the refs out of the game is for them not get blatant decisions shockingly wrong .Prime example ours on Saturday barely 5yrds away looking straight at it with nothing in front of the refs sight line .Yes we know they do have a hard job on and people make mistakes granted but getting a decision like the one on Saturday wrong is either incompetence or something more sinister.The ref needs to be held accountable and come out and explain why they didn’t give the decision.
 
gatopreto said:
Difficult to make an excuse for him, I agree.

Imagine watching that multiple times with the benefit of different angles and speeds. It makes it so much easier.

if VAR operators did their job we wouldn't be talking about him.
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Apparently Gillet has form for overruling The VAR refs and sticking to his decisions so it probably would have made no difference. He's just a bad, arrogant ref. Somebody on here suggested that Bell, one of the VAR muppets, was a mag fan. If that's true it needs investigating.
 
rob79safc said:
never played,coached or reffed to any significance or importance but seem to have an opinion after watching a few highlights on everything 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
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Like you.
G Force said:
Like Duracell batteries these lads

Why care SO much that these theads happen every week.

Fans will vent, just let get the on with it. Its always the same trio being the devout defenders of refs. Slightly weird really

One admitted to not being a Sunderland supporter, one is apparently a mag. Not sure what Robs defence is ;)

I don’t include AC. He’s usually pretty balanced and also did decent match day reports
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Who's the third person out of interest? I find that quite a lot of posters are now saying they're sick of the whingers constantly bleating on about refs.

Fwiw, I don't really defend poor refereee performances much. I defend refs when people call them cheats, corrupt or have an agenda against Sunderland.
 
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