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Speakman gone

woodlebert said:
I’ve never met him. In what way is he an arsehole?
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If you’re in charge of a very big football club, then on occasion you have to read the room.

For me his ‘arsehole’ tendency came out when he was backing into a corner.

Justifying the appointment of Michael Beale, telling us we didn’t play with a striker, telling us Dajaku was a striker.

I have the utmost respect for him and his time here. I’m pretty confident my posts will back that up.

Had his flaws though, and at times he was ‘an arse hole’

There isn’t a getting away from that, I imagine if Ghisolfi were to do podcasts that never strayed from the party line or showed himself in a bad light I’d have the same opinion.

Chill
 

There was some shite in there wasn't there. Jurassic park was pre SpeakMan, Johnson was a fair appointment. Beale was a shocker but the rest have been on the whole very good especially getting reg in
 
Seaham Towny said:
If you’re in charge of a very big football club, then on occasion you have to read the room.

For me his ‘arsehole’ tendency came out when he was backing into a corner.

Justifying the appointment of Michael Beale, telling us we didn’t play with a striker, telling us Dajaku was a striker.

I have the utmost respect for him and his time here. I’m pretty confident my posts will back that up.

Had his flaws though, and at times he was ‘an arse hole’

There isn’t a getting away from that, I imagine if Ghisolfi were to do podcasts that never strayed from the party line or showed himself in a bad light I’d have the same opinion.

Chill
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I couldn’t give a fuck if he’s the biggest wanket on earth he done his job why are you bothered about that shite
 
mikemanc said:
Have we? I didn't know that. Given they are part of the Brentford owner's group that's an interesting appointment. Midjytlland have done brilliantly since they took over.
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Yeah someone told me about it and they have confirmed it on their LinkedIn accounts. We just haven’t announced it
 
Seaham Towny said:
If you’re in charge of a very big football club, then on occasion you have to read the room.

For me his ‘arsehole’ tendency came out when he was backing into a corner.

Justifying the appointment of Michael Beale, telling us we didn’t play with a striker, telling us Dajaku was a striker.

I have the utmost respect for him and his time here. I’m pretty confident my posts will back that up.

Had his flaws though, and at times he was ‘an arse hole’

There isn’t a getting away from that, I imagine if Ghisolfi were to do podcasts that never strayed from the party line or showed himself in a bad light I’d have the same opinion.

Chill
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Why aye ya bell 🛎️ clueless ****
We move on together as a club,
 
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The sacking is great news. The club makes decisive decisions and having 2 different people in a similar role wasn’t working.

This decisiveness will be needed in selling top value players soon, to ensure we have a chance of reinvesting and staying up, and I also suspect RLB will be gone within a year. People will argue but if the ownership want progression RLB isn’t the man I’m afraid.
 
He has been hired by Mr and Mrs Bellingham?

It was him had our leader banned, he can do one for me and take all his duff singeings with him.
Club is moving forward job too big for him
 
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Good luck Speakers. I think every Sunderland fan will be forever grateful for the tremendous job you've done for us.

Onwards and upwards I hope
 
Ned Land said:
Yes we have.

Examples: the owners/board who got SAFC into the league and assembled the Team of all the Talents.

Wasn’t the owner/board in the 1950s ambitious? They broke transfer records in the Bank of England Club era.
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I think the valid point you are making is that there is a difference between ambition and capability.
Both Murray and Short were very ambitious but also limited in terms of capability.
The board of the 50s were very ambitious but were responsible for the start of the clubs demise.
What KLD is displaying is a ruthless capability to make the right calls at the right time. Only time will tell us if he can sustain the progress
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
I don't think there's anything in the "immediate effect" bit tbh. January window is done so the focus will obviously turn to planning for the summer. He's seen out the majority of what he'd do in 25/26 so there's no point agreeing a long notice period or anything. The club don't need it because they've got Ghisolfi in already, speakman doesn't need it because he wouldn't have much to do. So likely made sense to pay him off so he can leave now and the immediate effect bit is just making sure there's no ambiguity. He's stepped away now, Ghisolfi will be doing all the summer planning, so players and agents can be confident when approached that there aren't any conflicting interests. When Ghisolfi came in they likely always hoped to have this season with the two of them as a smooth transition and now, with January done and survival virtually assured, it's a good time to part ways
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“Football is a results business” - a cliche but still very true.

KS did the job he was as here to do - ultimately he was a success.

Not sure he wanted to move on, or if the parting was harmonious - his statement mentions And thanks everybody for except KLD. No mention at all of the owner sticks out blatantly to me
 
With the backing there, his experience with us and his prior there, you would think he would be exactly what brum need.
 
Honess10 said:
I think that’s people projecting what they hope is the case as regards his speciality. Frankly it’s conjecture and speculation. The facts remain under his time here our playing staff and recruitment has largely been f***ing superb. If Ghisolfi was all about the summer transfers then fantastic. As that was superb too 👍 I’d worry that the ‘consensus on here’ know the square root of fuck all though about how involved - or not - speakman was this summer.
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Ghisolfi’s short term performance in terms of recruitment is outstanding.
Is that the same though as long term sustainable running of the AOL and producing UK talent alongside young foreign talent.

For me it’s two different jobs, but one strategy which suggests that they either have an Academy Manager who can lead the development function inc the younger teams and women reporting to Ghisolfi or will recruit one.

There is no doubt Ghisolfi took a huge chunk of Speakmans job. There is also no doubt he could not have effected the changes he made without Speakmans support.

Two into one may no longer fit but we owe Speakman a huge debt. He committed 100% to the cause and was in it for the long haul.

I just hope Ghisolfi is
BumbleBee said:
Foreign signings were shit - dined out on Jobe!
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Whilst I agree foreign signings were poor, and I banged on about that. It cannot be argued he was shopping in the bargain basement bin of Aldi. He had completely different criteria for acquiring players.

That he assembled two promotion winning squads is what he must be judged on. They were developed at such a cost it gave us enormous head room going into the Premiership.

Ghisolfi is clearly a very talented man, but I hope he will be proven to be a long term strategic leader that can continue to build and maintain a sustainable club.
I have trust KLD that he can see this in him
 
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He got a lot of stick at times, but he's as responsible as anybody for where we find ourselves now. It's actually pretty difficult to think of anyone who has had such a big positive impact on the club in my lifetime. He didn't do it alone of course, KLD has been superb (also roundly criticised at times, sometimes deservedly so).

The transformation between that League 1 team he inherited and what we have today is incredible, and he spent next to nothing prior to promotion to achieve it.

Some of his signings:

Clarke (Loan in League 1, £2.5m after, sold for £20m)
Roberts (Convinced Man City to recall him from his loan, pay up his contract, and brought him to us in League 1)
Pritchard - Free transfer in League 1
Amad - What a loan signing
Jobe - £2m buy, £35m sale after contributing massively on the pitch
Ballard - £2.5m buy, playing out of his skin in the PL now
Hume - Cost buttons, playing PL now
Cirkin - Free? PL player but made of glass
Alese - 500k - excellent championship player when fit and had PL potential if he wasn't made of glass
Mundle - £1.5m - excellent business
Mayenda - £800k - sky is the limit for him
Triantis - £300k, sold for £2.5m
Ekwah - £300k, sold for £6m
Stewart - Got £10m for a player with an ACL injury and a short contract

Without the above, we'd be in a very different position now.
 
CraigyWatt said:
He got a lot of stick at times, but he's as responsible as anybody for where we find ourselves now. It's actually pretty difficult to think of anyone who has had such a big positive impact on the club in my lifetime. He didn't do it alone of course, KLD has been superb (also roundly criticised at times, sometimes deservedly so).

The transformation between that League 1 team he inherited and what we have today is incredible, and he spent next to nothing prior to promotion to achieve it.

Some of his signings:

Clarke (Loan in League 1, £2.5m after, sold for £20m)
Roberts (Convinced Man City to recall him from his loan, pay up his contract, and brought him to us in League 1)
Pritchard - Free transfer in League 1
Amad - What a loan signing
Jobe - £2m buy, £35m sale after contributing massively on the pitch
Ballard - £2.5m buy, playing out of his skin in the PL now
Hume - Cost buttons, playing PL now
Cirkin - Free? PL player but made of glass
Alese - 500k - excellent championship player when fit and had PL potential if he wasn't made of glass
Mundle - £1.5m - excellent business
Mayenda - £800k - sky is the limit for him
Triantis - £300k, sold for £2.5m
Ekwah - £300k, sold for £6m
Stewart - Got £10m for a player with an ACL injury and a short contract

Without the above, we'd be in a very different position now.
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You missed Le Fee and Isidor, bringing through Neil, Patto, Watson and Rigg, Evans who led us to first promotion.

Not all down to him of course but he provided the leadership and strategy for it all to happen
 
Chewit said:
I just hope Ghisolfi is
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Only time will tell, but KLD has also earned our trust I feel. It's going to be really interesting how KLD, Ghisolfi, and RLB want to evolve our playing style (and squad) over the next few seasons (assuming we survive this and next). Obviously going forward and creating more chances is going to be our biggest challenge, particularly under RLB's system. I've got faith in our French speaking trio to figure it out.
 
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