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Niall Huggins.

brains said:
Overrated IMO, was always bang average at best when he played. Hume has been a solid international footballer since he was 20. He has had a terrible time with injuries though.
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Each to their own. I rate Trai , he's clearly a good player. A tad over rated imo, and by that I'm going off comments on here and other social media about how good he's been this season. He's had a decent season undoubtedly but have read he's been outstanding and consistently good, I don't particularly agree with that
 

The comparison with Hume is probably a good measure of how injuries have set him back.

Theres a fair measure of luck to making it at a high level. Whether that's getting your chance in the first place or staying injury free. Unfortunately I don't think Huggins will ever hit the level he was capable of because he's lost so much time.
 
Rocky77 said:
Nonsense that tbf
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Ask Alese, Stewart, Huggins etc etc etc etc.

On the other hand look at players like Hume 09 who have got better and better and better because they’ve barely missed any football over a number of years and because of their attitude and dedication have gone from strength to strength.

However good you are don’t mean sh1t if you ain’t playing.

Availability always has and always will be key.

If you cant see that then you don’t understand sport bruda TBF
 
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Rocky77 said:
You can be shit and available, have you forgotten the last 15 years following Sunderland?
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I’ve watched 09 look like a dud in league 1, be available 5 year to play and train and now is a premier league footballer.

I’ve watched Ross Stewart tear it up in the championship and play 4 games on 3 years.

Like I said, if you can’t see 1st priority is to be fit and ready then I’m not sure you understand sport
 
red mackem said:
I’ve watched 09 look like a dud in league 1, be available 5 year to play and train and now is a premier league footballer.

I’ve watched Ross Stewart tear it up in the championship and play 4 games on 3 years.

Like I said, if you can’t see 1st priority is to be fit and ready then I’m not sure you understand sport
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You said it's the best ability. It isn't, some players play less than others and have a far greater impact. I'm sure you know that and will accept you're wrong
 
Difficult to get a full understanding of him as he has effectively only played half a season for us. Did get the impression that he was better in possession than out of it so thought he'd be much better suited as a RM than RB. Seems Wycombe also think so as it looks like he is only been used as a RM for them.
 
He was a young promising talent when we took from him Leeds and he showed that when first seen in a Sunderland shirt. But as we've moved up 2 divisions, he hasn't come with us in a way that Hume has.

He's no longer a young lad - we've got to look at his development both on the pitch and physically and decide if he's ever going to match the clubs ambition to remain the top half of the PL. I think its become obvious that's not going to happen.

Even in the pre-season friendlies before this current season he looked suspect defensively. No doubt some of that was due to lack of regular game time which is where the injuries have a knock-on effect. It's not just the rehab back to physical fitness, it's finding form and confidence again.
 
Rocky77 said:
A player can be injury free his whole career and be very average, another player could have a few injuries and be absolutely brilliant. Which one would you choose?
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You’re missing the point. A player can improve on their base if they are available and have the right attitude. A player not available or with poor availability no matter their attitude will never get that chance.

Salah at 22 was struggling to get game time at Chelsea, Chiesa at 22 was signing for Juve and dominating the Euros. What lead to their different career trajectories was availability.
 
red mackem said:
You’re missing the point. A player can improve on their base if they are available and have the right attitude. A player not available or with poor availability no matter their attitude will never get that chance.

Salah at 22 was struggling to get game time at Chelsea, Chiesa at 22 was signing for Juve and dominating the Euros. What lead to their different career trajectories was availability.
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I'm missing no point, you said availability is the best ability. I totally disagree. I mean I can be available but I don't have the talent so I've never made it
 
Rocky77 said:
I'm missing no point, you said availability is the best ability. I totally disagree. I mean I can be available but I don't have the talent so I've never made it
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Yea completely missing the point, I’ll repeat

Availability
Attitude
Talent
In that order, quite obviously
 
red mackem said:
Yea completely missing the point, I’ll repeat

Availability
Attitude
Talent
In that order, quite obviously
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No you're not accepting I don't agree with you. You can keep saying it and saying it , I understand what you're saying I just don't agree..

Also just realised you called me bruda in a previous post. So add a few bluds into my posts and we're tip top
 
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CostadelRoker said:
Not true mind, he showed real glimpses of quality when fit. His goal against Watford for example was top draw.

Injuries have well and truly fucked him unfortunately. Hope he gets a decent run, some confidence and can make a decent career for himself.
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I wouldn't go as far as bang average as he did look quite good during that run under Mowbray. But I've always found the obsession some have with him quite bizarre. People raved about him during his first season here but his only appearances were coming off the bench against Bolton, 90 minutes in a 5-0 win against a dreadful Cheltenham team and a couple of appearances in the cup. I remember questioning how people could talk about him so highly based on that and was told 'but you should have seen him against Blackpool in the cup' - a game in which Aiden O'Brien scored a hat trick.

People still regularly say he was our Player of the Season until he got injured under Mowbray when we had Jack Clarke tearing up defences every week at the same time. He played 19 games that season - not all of them starts, not all of them brilliant (was it Blackburn away when he had a bit of a stinker and swapped sides with Hume at half time?). I just think how good Cirkin was in the first half of last season compared to the second half - half a season of good form in your entire career is no indication or guarantee that you'll go on to perform consistently at that level or higher.

Real shame what's happened to him with injuries anyway, wouldn't wish that on anyone. I'm not saying he was shit, I just haven't anything to justify the hype.
 
Rocky77 said:
No you're not accepting I don't agree with you. You can keep saying it and saying it , I understand what you're saying I just don't agree..

Also just realised you called me bruda in a previous post. So add a few bluds into my posts and we're tip top
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It’s not agreeing or disagreeing your just wrong. It’s so obvious. Availability is key bruda.
Availability
Attitude
Talent

The fact your trying to argue against availability being key in a Huggins thread both makes me laugh and think its not worth the bother trying to educate you.
 
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red mackem said:
It’s not agreeing or disagreeing your just wrong. It’s so obvious. Availability is key bruda.
Availability
Attitude
Talent

The fact your trying to argue against availability being key in a Huggins thread both makes me laugh and think its not worth the bother trying to educate you.
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No it's an opinion
You can be utterly shit and available all the time and contribute next to nothing.
A player with much higher ability can play less and contribute more.

I quite like how condescending you are tbh. It doesn't suit but keep it up champ
 
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