Good post.
Get into Europe, so you're a bigger pull, and expand the squad by spending astutely, using the big cash from Man City swooping in and paying a boat load for a couple of players. This allows you to continue improving your squad (accepting you lose a couple of stand outs each season) enabling you to be competitive in the league and have a decent cup run.
There's nothing 'stale' about competing in the best club league in the world when the alternative is visiting random places I've just listed.
Of course it can go stale. If you end up neither pushing for Europe or fighting relegation, things can go staleThere's nothing 'stale' about competing in the best club league in the world when the alternative is visiting random places I've just listed.
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If we were comparing to lesser leagues I'd have to agree. But no one is. At all. Which again is bizarre that you've randomly decided to. More than onceThere's nothing 'stale' about competing in the best club league in the world when the alternative is visiting random places I've just listed.
Bizarre you can't see that marra
Think he's tasted too much ale.
Good post…complacency, confidence, anxiety all in the mix when considering the future. Makes a strong case for simply enjoying/ content with what is in front of us now .. and what we are experiencing now is just quite staggering. Just stand back and smile and let the hierarchy on a professional level to do the work necessary to stabilise and grow.Saw an interesting statistic the other day which outlined that 47% of newly promoted teams end up getting relegated in their first PL season.
Of the newly promoted teams that do stay up in their first season, only 11% subsequently get relegated in season 2, which shows you've got a very strong chance of getting to season 3 and well on your way to establishing yourself as a feature at that level given the advantage you have over the upcoming promoted sides at the very least.
Still early days in the Championship and a lot to play for, but at the moment the 3 coming up could be Coventry, Boro and Ipswich who would obviously start a million miles behind us in terms of squad talent, finances, ability to attract players, etc.
There's teams like Palace and Bournemouth who have lost key players and/or a manager, and sides like Leeds and Forest who (if they stay up), with respect, are probably going to be in the mix at the bottom half of the table too.
My only slight concern is that players like Roefs and Sadiki will already attract serious interest in the summer based on their performances this season. We'd obviously bring in massive money if they were to go and you'd be foolish to back against us replacing them well, but if we could hold on to our core 15-ish players and add 2-3 players of next level quality, the sky could be the limit.
Not to take anything for granted mind as we're all long enough in the tooth to know how quickly things can go wrong, but it just feels like everything is lining up really nicely for us to become a real fixture at this level. God knows we deserve it!
Can't believe we're looking ahead to next season, in January mind. What an unreal season we have had
Top players want regular European footy and will (depending on the stage of their career)be off to clubs that can provide that!We need to develop into a club that has regular european footy (not easy to do obviously)and thats going to take smart trading of players and recruitment and a significant investment from KLD..... But for the first time in the long years of supporting SAFC i have hope that for once we have might just have owners with the acumen to match our wonderful supporters!
We have a very different definition of stale then and very short memories.
Yes we probably do. And previous seasons don't really impact whether current or future ones go stale
We're at the beginning (and I mean really early) of a fantastic journey. Each twist and turn, each performance, each rumour (transfers in and out), each commercial development, every bit of news is absolutely fascinating. We are the talk of the season not just domestically but internationally too.If we were comparing to lesser leagues I'd have to agree. But no one is. At all. Which again is bizarre that you've randomly decided to. More than once
As said, threads across the weekend talk about a drop in energy and enthusiasm in the stands due to us being in a position where we won't go down or challenge. And that's in our first season back.
We have others already bemoaning a lack of goals and creativity.
A poster on this very thread recognises the challenge of keeping fans engaged when we "hit our ceiling".
But aye, it's all good and will never be an issue if you just randomly decide to compare it to lesser leagues (although even then loads of people on here said they'd take challenging for the top of the championship over year upon year of floating about just above the drop zone in the Premier league so even your random comparison argument has some flaws).
Think he's tasted too much ale.
There's only a finite number of clubs who can offer better than what they already have (as a total package) as well. People need to chill out a bit and just enjoy the ride.
See: Crystal Palace
Agree with all points until we reach the point about staleness. But possibly because you've misunderstood what I, and others on the thread are talking about and why you've brought up other leagues and short memories etc.
I think next season is Sunderland test. I say that because it could mirror our entry into the Championship. We made the playoffs first season only to have a 2nd half claps in 2nd season followed by our amazing run to the PL in 3rd season.Saw an interesting statistic the other day which outlined that 47% of newly promoted teams end up getting relegated in their first PL season.
Of the newly promoted teams that do stay up in their first season, only 11% subsequently get relegated in season 2, which shows you've got a very strong chance of getting to season 3 and well on your way to establishing yourself as a feature at that level given the advantage you have over the upcoming promoted sides at the very least.
Still early days in the Championship and a lot to play for, but at the moment the 3 coming up could be Coventry, Boro and Ipswich who would obviously start a million miles behind us in terms of squad talent, finances, ability to attract players, etc.
There's teams like Palace and Bournemouth who have lost key players and/or a manager, and sides like Leeds and Forest who (if they stay up), with respect, are probably going to be in the mix at the bottom half of the table too.
My only slight concern is that players like Roefs and Sadiki will already attract serious interest in the summer based on their performances this season. We'd obviously bring in massive money if they were to go and you'd be foolish to back against us replacing them well, but if we could hold on to our core 15-ish players and add 2-3 players of next level quality, the sky could be the limit.
Not to take anything for granted mind as we're all long enough in the tooth to know how quickly things can go wrong, but it just feels like everything is lining up really nicely for us to become a real fixture at this level. God knows we deserve it!
Can't believe we're looking ahead to next season, in January mind. What an unreal season we have had
Nicely summed up and it does feel different this time to our last promotions. We have managed to attract some of the best players in World football who are still gelling as a team. A few more tweaks and this side is destined for good things, a cup run and top 8 will be an unbelievable achievement. However I'm greedy and want more.Saw an interesting statistic the other day which outlined that 47% of newly promoted teams end up getting relegated in their first PL season.
Of the newly promoted teams that do stay up in their first season, only 11% subsequently get relegated in season 2, which shows you've got a very strong chance of getting to season 3 and well on your way to establishing yourself as a feature at that level given the advantage you have over the upcoming promoted sides at the very least.
Still early days in the Championship and a lot to play for, but at the moment the 3 coming up could be Coventry, Boro and Ipswich who would obviously start a million miles behind us in terms of squad talent, finances, ability to attract players, etc.
There's teams like Palace and Bournemouth who have lost key players and/or a manager, and sides like Leeds and Forest who (if they stay up), with respect, are probably going to be in the mix at the bottom half of the table too.
My only slight concern is that players like Roefs and Sadiki will already attract serious interest in the summer based on their performances this season. We'd obviously bring in massive money if they were to go and you'd be foolish to back against us replacing them well, but if we could hold on to our core 15-ish players and add 2-3 players of next level quality, the sky could be the limit.
Not to take anything for granted mind as we're all long enough in the tooth to know how quickly things can go wrong, but it just feels like everything is lining up really nicely for us to become a real fixture at this level. God knows we deserve it!
Can't believe we're looking ahead to next season, in January mind. What an unreal season we have had
I can’t believe that I’m rooting for teams at the bottom end of the table to beat sides going for champions league and other European places. It’s crazy to think it’s only a couple of seasons ago we were being walloped 6-0 at Bolton who were at the time on a terrible run themselves in league 1.Saw an interesting statistic the other day which outlined that 47% of newly promoted teams end up getting relegated in their first PL season.
Of the newly promoted teams that do stay up in their first season, only 11% subsequently get relegated in season 2, which shows you've got a very strong chance of getting to season 3 and well on your way to establishing yourself as a feature at that level given the advantage you have over the upcoming promoted sides at the very least.
Still early days in the Championship and a lot to play for, but at the moment the 3 coming up could be Coventry, Boro and Ipswich who would obviously start a million miles behind us in terms of squad talent, finances, ability to attract players, etc.
There's teams like Palace and Bournemouth who have lost key players and/or a manager, and sides like Leeds and Forest who (if they stay up), with respect, are probably going to be in the mix at the bottom half of the table too.
My only slight concern is that players like Roefs and Sadiki will already attract serious interest in the summer based on their performances this season. We'd obviously bring in massive money if they were to go and you'd be foolish to back against us replacing them well, but if we could hold on to our core 15-ish players and add 2-3 players of next level quality, the sky could be the limit.
Not to take anything for granted mind as we're all long enough in the tooth to know how quickly things can go wrong, but it just feels like everything is lining up really nicely for us to become a real fixture at this level. God knows we deserve it!
Can't believe we're looking ahead to next season, in January mind. What an unreal season we have had
Agree Moo. Each to their own but I find it baffling we already have people bemoaning a lack of creativity and goals for example. I'm over the knot with how we are going about things this season.
