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Robin Roefs 🇳🇱 Signed!


The Situation said:
The same people who thought he was one of the best in the Championship, which was always utter nonsense, both statistically and via the eye test.

I'd argue he should have been replaced if we had stayed in the Championship, never mind the PL!
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He was one of the best championship keepers and kept us in the play off final. You’re clueless stato, have you ever kicked a ball?
 
The Situation said:
The same people who thought he was one of the best in the Championship, which was always utter nonsense, both statistically and via the eye test.

I'd argue he should have been replaced if we had stayed in the Championship, never mind the PL!
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We would never have been able to attract an upgrade on Patto in the championship. He was one of the best keepers in the league. Not the best, but certainly top 5. Off the top of my head, only Burnley and Stoke had better keepers.
 
The Situation said:
The same people who thought he was one of the best in the Championship, which was always utter nonsense, both statistically and via the eye test.

I'd argue he should have been replaced if we had stayed in the Championship, never mind the PL!
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Decent shot stopper, but bullied at set pieces, and always had a clanger in him.

He did the job.
 
MGC said:
He was one of the best championship keepers and kept us in the play off final. You’re clueless stato, have you ever kicked a ball?
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He was excellent in the playoff final, which is clouding people's opinion as it's the last game he played for us which had a massive reward so there's (understandably) a heavy amount of recent bias.

Don't take my opinion for it by the way. Go and look at his goals prevented numbers.

He was 15th for goals prevented last season of regular starting GK's, 3rd in 2023/2024 (excellent) and 16th in 2022/2023, so an average of 11th best during his 3 full Championship seasons.

That's before you talk about the other aspects such as his distribution, inability to collect a cross/high ball and being continually rooted to his line.

There's a reason GK was one of the first positions the club went all out to improve over the summer, and why this talk of him being linked with PL teams when we were in the Championship, was rubbish.

There's plenty of goalkeepers who have been deemed to have performed well in the Championship over the last few seasons who have, rightly or wrongly, ended up getting decent moves, even though they were first choice for their team at the time, e.g. off the top of my head - Hermansen, Kaminski, Muric, Trafford, Palmer. For clarity, I'm not saying I would have signed all of these before that starts, but using them as examples.

If Patterson truly was one of the best Championship goalkeepers, we'd have ended up getting offers we couldn't refuse for our second choice GK when we ended up signing Roefs with a month still to spare before the window closed.

I don't see how anyone can logically see a GK who was 15th and 16th for goals prevented in two of his three Championship seasons and equate that to being "one of the best Championship keepers". It's like trying to argue that the sky is green.
 
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The Situation said:
He was excellent in the playoff final, which is clouding people's opinion as it's the last game he played for us which had a massive reward so there's (understandably) a heavy amount of recent bias.

Don't take my opinion for it by the way. Go and look at his goals prevented numbers.

He was 15th for goals prevented last season of regular starting GK's, 3rd in 2023/2024 (excellent) and 16th in 2022/2023, so an average of 11th best during his 3 full Championship seasons.

That's before you talk about the other aspects such as his distribution, inability to collect a cross/high ball and being continually rooted to his line.

There's a reason GK was one of the first positions the club went all out to improve over the summer, and why this talk of him being linked with PL teams when we were in the Championship, was rubbish.

There's plenty of goalkeepers who have been deemed to have performed well in the Championship over the last few seasons who have, rightly or wrongly, ended up getting decent moves, even though they were first choice for their team at the time, e.g. off the top of my head - Hermansen, Kaminski, Muric, Trafford, Palmer. For clarity, I'm not saying I would have signed all of these before that starts, but using them as examples.

If Patterson truly was one of the best Championship goalkeepers, we'd have ended up getting offers we couldn't refuse for our second choice GK when we ended up signing Roefs with a month still to spare before the window closed.

I don't see how anyone can logically see a GK who was 15th and 16th for goals prevented in two of his three Championship seasons and equate that to being "one of the best Championship keepers". It's like trying to argue that the sky is green.
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You had me till the end.

If you have enough precipitation, and reddish light (sunrise or sunset), the scattering of the red and blue light will result in a green sky.

Get back in yer box you 'blue sky' absolutist!
 
Happy birthday Robin. You share a birthday with Aji Alese. #facts.

Have a lovely day and keep your sheets clean.

He’s fkin mint like. And really handsome.
 
The Situation said:
He was excellent in the playoff final, which is clouding people's opinion as it's the last game he played for us which had a massive reward so there's (understandably) a heavy amount of recent bias.

Don't take my opinion for it by the way. Go and look at his goals prevented numbers.

He was 15th for goals prevented last season of regular starting GK's, 3rd in 2023/2024 (excellent) and 16th in 2022/2023, so an average of 11th best during his 3 full Championship seasons.

That's before you talk about the other aspects such as his distribution, inability to collect a cross/high ball and being continually rooted to his line.

There's a reason GK was one of the first positions the club went all out to improve over the summer, and why this talk of him being linked with PL teams when we were in the Championship, was rubbish.

There's plenty of goalkeepers who have been deemed to have performed well in the Championship over the last few seasons who have, rightly or wrongly, ended up getting decent moves, even though they were first choice for their team at the time, e.g. off the top of my head - Hermansen, Kaminski, Muric, Trafford, Palmer. For clarity, I'm not saying I would have signed all of these before that starts, but using them as examples.

If Patterson truly was one of the best Championship goalkeepers, we'd have ended up getting offers we couldn't refuse for our second choice GK when we ended up signing Roefs with a month still to spare before the window closed.

I don't see how anyone can logically see a GK who was 15th and 16th for goals prevented in two of his three Championship seasons and equate that to being "one of the best Championship keepers". It's like trying to argue that the sky is green.
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Is that overall goals prevented? Because you'd expect him to do worse on that in seasons we performed well and therefore conceded fewer chances.
 
gatopreto said:
You aren't going to get the complete goalkeeper as championship level. He'd be a good signing for the majority of championship clubs and served us well at that level.
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I don't disagree. He did a decent job, and will likely still improve.

He is definitely a top half Championship keeper, and if he starts to dominate his box he might well end up at the bottom end of the Premier league.

Improving on him was a no brainer though.
 
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