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Ashes Inquest

Parkside said:
The board is about opinions but they're purely subjective. You're condemning Hameed from a 2nd chance on a personal subjective opinion. I reiterate that 's not a voice of fair play. 😀
I'm certainly not against Haynes but both He and Hameed are probably of similar standard,Hameed has had the experience of test cricket with the advantage of limitations being recognised but remedial work done on them to hopefully eradicate.
I take it you don't accept that Duckett should be dropped?
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I don’t think Duckett should be dropped on performances alone, for two reasons, before this series his record really good in comparison to other test openers.

And secondly same point as before if we struggling for alternatives to replace one opener we certainly would be replacing two.

It’s not really a second chance for Hameed it would be third I think, looked good when first came in side, then dropped out again, then given another a few years later and failed again.

Sibley had a poor average without playing one test against the Aussies.

Both them would struggle imo against top quality international bowlers.

But certainly get peoples point with Crawley got to the point after soo many chances he needs to be dropped, just concerned the cupboard relatively bare
 

Untenable not undeniable
Voice of fair play said:
I don’t think Duckett should be dropped on performances alone, for two reasons, before this series his record really good in comparison to other test openers.

And secondly same point as before if we struggling for alternatives to replace one opener we certainly would be replacing two.

It’s not really a second chance for Hameed it would be third I think, looked good when first came in side, then dropped out again, then given another a few years later and failed again.

Sibley had a poor average without playing one test against the Aussies.

Both them would struggle imo against top quality international bowlers.

But certainly get peoples point with Crawley got to the point after soo many chances he needs to be dropped, just concerned the cupboard relatively bare
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But you'd spare Duckett despite being on a final warning and repeating misbehaving when aware a colleague had recently been disciplined for misconduct. He's blatantly sticking two fingers up to authority. You can't condone that regardless of extraneous circumstances it's an invitation for anarchy.
 
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Parkside said:
Untenable not undeniable

But you'd spare Duckett despite being on a final warning and repeating misbehaving when aware a colleague had recently been disciplined for misconduct. He's blatantly sticking two fingers up to authority. You can't condone that regardless of extraneous circumstances it's an invitation for anarchy.
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Yeah that’s a diffrent debate altogether, my post was based of cricket ability
 
Voice of fair play said:
Not really as think the best options available to open in county cricket are two players who imo have proved not good to make the step up to international cricket.


Of course they is argument they Hameed and Sibley have improved.

However the fact they the top openers in county cricket shows the step up to International cricket imo from county cricket especially for openers is massive.

I think if they had been other younger openers with potential knocking about Crawley would have been dropped well before now.

In fact they may have been looking at McKinney to do just that if he had kicked on a bit more.
I think the fact Crawley has been given soo long and Larwence given the opportunity to open is a very worrying indication of the opening options we have
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But it's got to the point with Crawley (it did quite a while ago to be honest) that he's proven he's not up to it so we should be replacing him with whoever we deem to be the next best opener in the country, even if there are doubts that he'll be able to step up. Crawley has proven he can't.
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
You’re James Hildreth and you’ve seen Crawley play 64 tests, and you’re absolutely foaming
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It absolutely sickens me that Crawley has already played more tests than the following.

Graeme Swann
Jonathan Trott
Darren Gough
Steve Harmison
Tony Greig
Jack Hobbs
Robin Smith
Harold Larwood
 
Positions 3,4,5 and 6 and possibly wicketkeeper are the only ones I expect guaranteed in Ashes 2027.
3.Bethell
4.Root
5.Brook (attitude monitored)
6.Stokes
7.Smith
 
To go down a different route.

Is county cricket a strong enough competition?
With the amount of clubs we have, is it too diluted?
We could have 3 divisions of 6. The very best playing against the very best on a more regular basis.

Need to sort out the scheduling of the CC though and to allow the test players to actually play in it!
 
Provider said:
But it's got to the point with Crawley (it did quite a while ago to be honest) that he's proven he's not up to it so we should be replacing him with whoever we deem to be the next best opener in the country, even if there are doubts that he'll be able to step up. Crawley has proven he can't.
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Yeah like I said mate that more than fair
 
Thunder Road said:
To go down a different route.

Is county cricket a strong enough competition?
With the amount of clubs we have, is it too diluted?
We could have 3 divisions of 6. The very best playing against the very best on a more regular basis.

Need to sort out the scheduling of the CC though and to allow the test players to actually play in it!
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I heard that argument about the Shield the other day. And it has some merit, particularly as they don’t hire overseas players to play a single match and then fuck off
 
I was thinking today.What can ECB do to change the county championship game to help future Ashes contest...
  • Play more games in June , July August
  • Play innings where spin has to be bowled 20 overs. (Guaranteed)
  • Play pink ball games..kookaburra etc
  • Instruct groundsman to produce bouncy wickets and if they can't then get drop in pitches.
Anymore???
 
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Carteron said:
I keep Duckett around, needs a rest though. Something about Jacks for me too. He cant be batting 8 though - bat there often enough you bat like an 8. When Stokes goes we have a distinct lack of all rounders so could do a job at 6 IMO
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Always thought an all-rounder should be more of a bowler who can bat, rather than the other way around. Spent too long watching bits and pieces players like Mark Ealham or Adam Hollioake get shoe-horned into the team in an effort to balance the attack. I'm not convinced Will Jacks will ever be good enough to be a front line bowler at test level.
 
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