Ashes Squad 2025

[Provider]

Guess that’s my point with your first line when the squad was announced, you didn’t here comments ‘ like good and correct squad’ which it was in the main which you agreeing with, just a focus on one player who was a wrong selection

You're in your 50s right? And you haven't realised that just is what happens with sport. It's not isolated to this board, or the England cricket team, or English cricket fans, it's what fans of all sports all over the world do.

 

[Voice of fair play]

You're in your 50s right? And you haven't realised that just is what happens with sport. It's not isolated to this board, or the England cricket team, or English cricket fans, it's what fans of all sports all over the world do.

Yeah fair point I never understood it tbh.

Last year some supporters wanted the Sunderland manager sacked!!!

Happens with England squads for World Cups and Euros as well, good squads picked and people twist about the 22nd player picked the fourth choice centre half who will never play.

Guess people just like to have something to twist about not just in sport but in life tbh.

 

[Provider]

Yeah fair point I never understood it tbh.

Happens with England squads for World Cups and Euros good squads picked and people twist about the 22nd player picked the fourth choice centre half who will never play.

Guess people just like to have something to twist about not just in sport in life tbh.

You should see the Americans and NFL. Now that's next level in negativity.

 

[Voice of fair play]

You should see the Americans and NFL. Now that's next level in negativity.

Don’t follow it mate so I will take your point on that.

Think in life people just love to twist about something, life, politics, sport.

It’s probably why unbelievably a certain political party has come more popular in this country, but I am totally going off on a tangent now!!

 

[JackL]

I disagree on Jacks, he isn’t good enough in either skillset. He’s barely bowled with the red ball, and he will get tap

He doesn’t even play red ball much

You called players rubbish the other week man

I’ll quote this

Exactly Jacks is a strange choice considering he doesn't play test cricket ever

 

[Parkside]

It’s why Crawley is a certain pick despite consistently failing

I hope he absolutely smashes it.

But, and to be clear, an ashes average of 32 doesn’t cut it. He’s been picked for this for years. He can’t simply play up to the worst test batsman average of all time

Crawley's average Ashes series 2023
Aggregate 480 runs, average 53.3.

 

[JackL]

Don’t follow it mate so I will take your point on that.

Think in life people just love to twist about something, life, politics, sport.

It’s probably why unbelievably a certain political party has come more popular in this country, but I am totally going off on a tangent now!!

People don't love to twist, well maybe some people do, but the majority i think just have an opinion and voice it

 

[Voice of fair play]

People don't love to twist, well maybe some people do, but the majority i think just have an opinion and voice it

Think tbf there is both

They is definitely some twisty fuckers in this country.

But yeah equally plenty people who have valid opinions and voice them

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Crawley's average Ashes series 2023
Aggregate 480 runs, average 53.3.

Crawley in tests 3,313 @31.55

I don’t think any specialist bat in test history has more runs at a lower average

I hope it works obviously. And I think he works in white ball stuff

 

[Parkside]

Yeah fair point I never understood it tbh.


Guess people just like to have something to twist about not just in sport but in life tbh.

Yeh, but if you read and considered counter arguments rather than ignoring them you may gain some enlightenment.
It's known as intelligent debate and appreciating people have differing viewpoints.

 

[Mr Redknapp]

I disagree on Jacks, he isn’t good enough in either skillset. He’s barely bowled with the red ball, and he will get tap

They've did it on purpose..like Warne in 93

 

[MustardAndOnions]

I disagree on Jacks, he isn’t good enough in either skillset. He’s barely bowled with the red ball, and he will get tap

He doesn’t even play red ball much

You called players rubbish the other week man

I’ll quote this

I like it me. He has dealt with high pace in international cricket and handy off spin. Good player. Tall spinner too snd gets over spin.

So we agree.

I don’t think anyone actually disagrees then.

No offence but this forum is consistently wrong when it comes to moaning about English selections. Demanded Dawson and cook for years when they are nowhere near test players.

Selection under this regime has been excellent, again something nobody wants to admit

It’s why Crawley is a certain pick despite consistently failing

I hope he absolutely smashes it.

But, and to be clear, an ashes average of 32 doesn’t cut it. He’s been picked for this for years. He can’t simply play up to the worst test batsman average of all time

I will never ever understand anyone who wants Crawley dropping for this series, I think people are just so entrenched in pre made beliefs they can’t shift

Chunky you seem to just watch cricket through utter stats without the reality of how it affects games. Watch it with your eyes.
Ben Stokes only averages 35 btw from a plumb position at 6 like. You can’t just go off averages like, they don’t tell the whole story.

Crawley and Duckett just works. Can’t believe its even a debate.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

I like it me. He has dealt with high pace in international cricket and handy off spin. Good player. Tall spinner too snd gets over spin.


No offence but this forum is consistently wrong when it comes to moaning about English selections. Demanded Dawson and cook for years when they are nowhere near test players.

Selection under this regime has been excellent, again something nobody wants to admit


I will never ever understand anyone who wants Crawley dropping for this series, I think people are just so entrenched in pre made beliefs they can’t shift

Chunky you seem to just watch cricket through utter stats without the reality of how it affects games. Watch it with your eyes.
Ben Stokes only averages 35 btw from a plumb position at 6 like. You can’t just go off averages like, they don’t tell the whole story.

Crawley and Duckett just works. Can’t believe its even a debate.

You’re guessing with Jacks. He has no red ball record to fall back on at all.

On the stats thing, it’s not fully about stats no. But it’s a damn good indicator. The best players score runs consistently. Crawley doesn’t, that’s just a fact

 

[MustardAndOnions]

You’re guessing with Jacks. He has no red ball record to fall back on at all.

On the stats thing, it’s not fully about stats no. But it’s a damn good indicator. The best players score runs consistently. Crawley doesn’t, that’s just a fact

Theres not many openers in the world at the minute better tbf, people judge off like stats 20 years ago in my opinion

Crawley also makes Duckett a better player. And if you are talking about stats Crawley has the best average of any England batsman ever against bowling of 88mph plus.

Not really fussed what happens after the ashes tbf But he’s a good pick for this series, I’m not sure how can that be argued reasonably tbh. The last ashes shows it, he plays Cummins n co better than most, in the hardest position to bat!

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Theres not many openers in the world at the minute better tbf, people judge off like stats 20 years ago in my opinion

Crawley also makes Duckett a better player. And if you are talking about stats Crawley has the best average of any England batsman ever against bowling of 88mph plus.

Not really fussed what happens after the ashes tbf But he’s a good pick for this series, I’m not sure how can that be argued reasonably tbh. The last ashes shows it, he plays Cummins n co better than most, in the hardest position to bat!

That stat is surely not true? Gooch averaged 45 against the West Indies.

 

[Voice of fair play]

There is no doubt in my mind in both cricket and football, players are deemed better when they out of sides than in them by some fans and they too quick to suggest dropping them and changing things.

Most good sides in international sport over the years have had settled sides.

It’s all about opinions but imo, there is no one out there who we could be remotely confident of doing a better job at the top of the order in a Ashes away series than Crawley despite his agreeably less than ideal average.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

There is no doubt in my mind in both cricket and football, players are deemed better when they out of sides than in them by some fans and they too quick to suggest dropping them and changing things.

Most good sides in international sport over the years have had settled sides.

It’s all about opinions but imo, there is no one out there who we could be remotely confident of doing a better job at the top of the order in a Ashes away series than Crawley despite his agreeably less than ideal average.

of course successful sides have settled sides. If they win there is no drive to change them.

You’re trying to argue causation, whereas its outcome

 

[Nasser Butt-Head]

Can't wait myself.

 

[MustardAndOnions]

That stat is surely not true? Gooch averaged 45 against the West Indies.

Yeah above 88mph he averages some insane like, was on sky in the summer
Theres no openers in England who should be in ahead of him like

As I say I love county cricket but I just have to roll my eyes at some of the suggestions, it’s played on slow, low wickets with no bounce or pace, it’s just a different game. Players like Hameed will score runs in those environments with low hands but it’s a mile off test cricket.

People can say what they want about England but the best thing they have done in test cricket is ignore county stats and pick on attributes that suit test cricket and it’s worked.

We have never selected like that before, we usually go out with 4 right arm 80mph bowlers and a standard spinner.

People wanting Dawson over Bashir for example, and then quoting county stats, I iust don’t get it. You won’t find a bowler less suited to bowling in Australia than Liam Dawson, short, left arm spin who bowls flat flat flat with no guile.
We have no won a game thetr since 2011 and picking a spinner like Bashir who is very tall, gets over spin, and gives it a Rip, is a class brave move, likewise with jacks

What’s that phrase about the definition of madness doing the same thing over and over again. It’s absolutely worth a try doing something different.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Yeah above 88mph he averages some insane like, was on sky in the summer
Theres no openers in England who should be in ahead of him like

As I say I love county cricket but I just have to roll my eyes at some of the suggestions, it’s played on slow, low wickets with no bounce or pace, it’s just a different game. Players like Hameed will score runs in those environments with low hands but it’s a mile off test cricket.

People can say what they want about England but the best thing they have done in test cricket is ignore county stats and pick on attributes that suit test cricket and it’s worked.

We have never selected like that before, we usually go out with 4 right arm 80mph bowlers and a standard spinner.

People wanting Dawson over Bashir for example, and then quoting county stats, I iust don’t get it. You won’t find a bowler less suited to bowling in Australia than Liam Dawson, short, left arm spin who bowls flat flat flat with no guile.
We have no won a game thetr since 2011 and picking a spinner like Bashir who is very tall, gets over spin, and gives it a Rip, is a class brave move, likewise with jacks

What’s that phrase about the definition of madness doing the same thing over and over again. It’s absolutely worth a try doing something different.

I googled it, it’s 40.5. I can’t find stats for others, but I’d assume Root etc average more against pace.