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Really minor annoyances

Hawkings Boots said:
You can add to that people who see a car coming down a slip road and just blindly move over into your lane to let them in without checking or even indicating

Had countless near misses over the years because of people like that
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But of course you will be anticipating that they would move out, and slow down accordingly to accommodate their intended manoeuvre?
 

People who leave massive gaps in traffic jams - not just your standard car length, but 10-15 car lengths. What the fuck is that about?


HoxtonMackem said:
Also - drivers who don't realise that they don't have right of way whilst on a slip road joining a dual carriageway / A road / motorway.
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I'd agree, but also counter with there being a significant number of wankers who drive in the inside lane approaching a slip road and refuse to move over into the empty outer lane just because they know it will cause the person joining the carriageway to slow down/stop/cause issues. A little bit of cooperation makes the world turn that little bit easier.
 
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chriswallace85 said:
When we had the choice after year 9, I went for geography over history. Not entirely sure why - I think geography was just the more popular choice, especially with the lasses, so I followed suit.

Always wished I'd taken history.

I was good at both but had a greater interest in history.

Mind you, the history teachers were nobs and the geography department much more likeable.

Surely 1066, Magna Carta, Thomas Beckett, Ollie Cromwell and the English Civil War was though?

And wharrabout the Industrial Revolution?
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Of course it was. Loved it. My point was that WW2 wasn’t. I don’t know why I made that point. But that was what it was.

I still recall the capital cities of South America. Sort of.

I don’t remember who Magna Carta was or even which battle she fought in though.
 
Butcher's Coat said:
But of course you will be anticipating that they would move out, and slow down accordingly to accommodate their intended manoeuvre?
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I mean yeah why not?

I'm doing 80 in the outside lane and have to anticipate someone in the inside lane swerving in front of me doing 50 because they don't know that they have right of way over someone on a slip road
 
chriswallace85 said:
When we had the choice after year 9, I went for geography over history. Not entirely sure why - I think geography was just the more popular choice, especially with the lasses, so I followed suit.

Always wished I'd taken history.

I was good at both but had a greater interest in history.

Mind you, the history teachers were nobs and the geography department much more likeable.

Surely 1066, Magna Carta, Thomas Beckett, Ollie Cromwell and the English Civil War was though?

And wharrabout the Industrial Revolution?
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Was lucky that I had great teachers for both, just wish I could remember their names - can still visualise them though
 
VenisonsMullet said:
I'd agree, but also counter with there being a significant number of wankers who drive in the inside lane approaching a slip road and refuse to move over into the empty outer lane just because they know it will cause the person joining the carriageway to slow down/stop/cause issues. A little bit of cooperation makes the world turn that little bit easier.
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but you don't have to move over. we have this situation now when entitled people expect to be let onto the carriageway because of people being courteous and nowadays it's expected. if people just read the highway code it'd make for much safer roads.

i must admit, the driving standards in europe are a lot higher imo. at least they seem to have more awareness of their surroundings. i've been in portugal the last month and when we've been out and about there's not been half and quarter examples of shit driving as back home. there's a solid line in the middle of the main carriageway where slip roads join that you're not supposed to cross. perhaps we should adopt this.

i was always taught during lessons for cars/bikes and hgv that you shouldn't do anything that causes somebody else to alter their speed or direction.
edit, that was many moons ago and the bike was just a ride round the block.
 
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Families who walk hand in hand in hand in hand like they're the Swiss Family Robinson or part of some Cult.

Also Couples who insist on walking side by side (often holding hands too) down a path and can't grasp the notion of tucking in when it's busy.

Actually Holding hands in Public, if you're not stopping your kid (or lass) from running away....it's canny odd when you think about it.

Oh...and these influencer types who have someone video them while they walk off wistfully into the distance, often making suggestive glances or pouts back to the camera, pretending to be interested in whatever it is they are wanting to show off.....and having no shame whatsoever!

That was my minor/major annoyance list from a trip away with work last week.
 
Hawkings Boots said:
People who constantly switch lanes in traffic jams and thereby actually make the jams last longer

And single walkers who somehow manage to still block a 10 foot wide path walking in zigzags along the middle of it
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Or people who try to bypass traffic jams when the road splits. Take the A1/A194 north bound at Washington. 3 Lanes of the A1 blocked down to the Team Valley, so you have some entitled pricks who think they are above joining the queue like everyone else, head into the rightmost lane for the A194, race up passed all the traffic, get to just where the road splits, stop in the middle of the road and try to cut in. As well as pissing off all the people on the A1 who actually queued, now they have blocked the A194 for no reason. Basically "I'm too important to wait in this jam, let me jump the queue, and to all you who want to use the A194, tough shit, my queue jumping is more important than any of you".

(Nerd ramble alert)
As for the second one, I did a 5 minute talk on a conference on this, as it also comes in to robotics trajectory planning. Imagine a path of people, and around everyone you can draw a circle of how much space they take up, plus an acceptable amount of personal space. You also imagine a triangle on the ground coming out of that person showing where they might be in the next 5-10 seconds. I have not got one of the diagrams to hand unfortunately.

If the person is physically large or say it is a couple arm in arm, then the circle around the amount of space they take up is large. But also if they have large bags or they are one of these people who swing their arms massively when walking, they just take up more space.

Then for this triangle coming out of them. The faster they go, the longer that triangle will be, but the more certain of their direction, the narrower the triangle will be. So take a cyclist, on a bike is usually a fairly thin object and most of the time they will be travelling in a dead straight line, so although they are fast, you can imagine a long but fairly narrow zone in front of them of where they are most likely to be in the near future. So you don't walk into that imagined zone and you are fine, the fasts moving cyclist becomes less of a collision risk, but higher consequence if you do collide.

But then you get to a fat, arm swinger zigzagging, they take up a lot of the path anyway, but because you don't know if they are going to go left or right at any given time, the zone in front of them is quite wide. If you are walking faster and for personal space and collision avoidance, don't want to go in that zone, it becomes a really wide target to avoid. If they are in the middle of the path, it means only the edges are clear. But then if you have one or two people coming the other way the zones in front of them might fill in the gaps around this zigzagger and you have this odd scenario. Although there might only be 2 or 3 people on a very wide path, to be certain of avoiding them and being polite the path is actually blocked. If the same people were walking in a dead straight line, the path would not be blocked.

That is how robots see the world. Try to picture that prediction zone in front of people next time you are out. It is one of those little mental pass times I find interesting, particularly if I'm doing something like going out for a run when my mind is just wandering anyway, but I'm more sensitive to people in the way, because if I slow it is a lot more effort to get up to speed again.
 
Butcher's Coat said:
Didn't know there was a correct format, but that way sounds plausible to me.
I will now do it that way just to noise up pricks who think it's the wrong way. :lol:

What is this "accepted way" marra? 🤷‍♂️
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A little light reading for you :lol:
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Well I would say mine XXXX XXX XXXX (same as a local landline as it has the same amount of digits and scans nicely), but it seems like it should be XXXXX XXX XXX - nee way can I wrap me heed round that like.
 
DaveH said:
Or people who try to bypass traffic jams when the road splits. Take the A1/A194 north bound at Washington. 3 Lanes of the A1 blocked down to the Team Valley, so you have some entitled pricks who think they are above joining the queue like everyone else, head into the rightmost lane for the A194, race up passed all the traffic, get to just where the road splits, stop in the middle of the road and try to cut in. As well as pissing off all the people on the A1 who actually queued, now they have blocked the A194 for no reason. Basically "I'm too important to wait in this jam, let me jump the queue, and to all you who want to use the A194, tough shit, my queue jumping is more important than any of you".

(Nerd ramble alert)
As for the second one, I did a 5 minute talk on a conference on this, as it also comes in to robotics trajectory planning. Imagine a path of people, and around everyone you can draw a circle of how much space they take up, plus an acceptable amount of personal space. You also imagine a triangle on the ground coming out of that person showing where they might be in the next 5-10 seconds. I have not got one of the diagrams to hand unfortunately.

If the person is physically large or say it is a couple arm in arm, then the circle around the amount of space they take up is large. But also if they have large bags or they are one of these people who swing their arms massively when walking, they just take up more space.

Then for this triangle coming out of them. The faster they go, the longer that triangle will be, but the more certain of their direction, the narrower the triangle will be. So take a cyclist, on a bike is usually a fairly thin object and most of the time they will be travelling in a dead straight line, so although they are fast, you can imagine a long but fairly narrow zone in front of them of where they are most likely to be in the near future. So you don't walk into that imagined zone and you are fine, the fasts moving cyclist becomes less of a collision risk, but higher consequence if you do collide.

But then you get to a fat, arm swinger zigzagging, they take up a lot of the path anyway, but because you don't know if they are going to go left or right at any given time, the zone in front of them is quite wide. If you are walking faster and for personal space and collision avoidance, don't want to go in that zone, it becomes a really wide target to avoid. If they are in the middle of the path, it means only the edges are clear. But then if you have one or two people coming the other way the zones in front of them might fill in the gaps around this zigzagger and you have this odd scenario. Although there might only be 2 or 3 people on a very wide path, to be certain of avoiding them and being polite the path is actually blocked. If the same people were walking in a dead straight line, the path would not be blocked.

That is how robots see the world. Try to picture that prediction zone in front of people next time you are out. It is one of those little mental pass times I find interesting, particularly if I'm doing something like going out for a run when my mind is just wandering anyway, but I'm more sensitive to people in the way, because if I slow it is a lot more effort to get up to speed again.
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That is interesting and I have noticed it more when on a run too as like you say you have to dodge past them
 
VenisonsMullet said:
you don't have to, but if you can, you should. That's being courteous
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the first 4 words are the most important. who do you think would be at fault if you pulled over and there was something overtaking you?
the easiest way to stop people thinking they can barge out is for people to actually stop being courteous. that and reading the highway code.
 
Dirge said:
No in retrospect and we must bow to POTUS and his health secretary’s profound knowledge, sincerity and honesty in this, these people must have taken paracetamol
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Do you know how many people who've died turn out to have regularly drunk a cup of tea? Staggeringly high percentage IMHO, can it really be a coincidence?
 
Cockney Mackem said:
Do you know how many people who've died turn out to have regularly drunk a cup of tea? Staggeringly high percentage IMHO, can it really be a coincidence?
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I can't find the article now, but one study found that a high percentage of pedestrians killed in road accidents were chewing Wrigley's Spearmint gum.

Conclusion - chewing gum makes you more likely to die in road accidents.
 
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