Steak Pie
Striker
There's no either way about it, removing international cricket from the summer holidays is an act of vandalism.
The people who support this idiocy should never be forgiven.
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The people who support this idiocy should never be forgiven.
columbo70
Midfield
ffs....how can ECB not see this is bad
They and the ECB are abandoning English cricket and everyone who supports it. We are been hijacked by people who will start to takeover as they have money to burn.... we are the only country who plays in these months and we have given all our tradition up for money.....to me that's abandoning ur country
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8 host counties, chosen at random,have been given 49% of the shares in the team playing at their venue and are free to sell on any or all of those shares and will retain 80% of the monies raised. Non-hosting counties will each receive <1% of that revenue. That's palpably unjust.
@ Voice of fair play approved of this sale. Which begs the question -Does he know the difference between right and wrong?
I refer you to the above and ask you if you turn up your nose at the sharing of that sale.
Correction-host counties,have 51% of the shares
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columbo70
Midfield
ECB...free tickets.....can't sell it to TV when stadium is empty....
little e
Striker
Marra, I haven't a scooby what you're talking about.
I posted that me and the missus enjoy watching the 100, maybe you've quoted the wrong person but ...
If the competion brings 6, 8, 10 thousand spectators in then it can only be good. They're paying customers that wouldn't be there otherwise.
As the missus pointed out to me tonight, "if little lasses can watch that and say, I'd like to do that, what can be wrong", well, what can be wrong with that ???
BTW, her mother played County Cricket for Durham in the 50's, maybe early 60's when women's cricket got no recognition whatsoever
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Provider
Striker
Posts like this totally miss the point IMHO. None of the things you mention would be/ would have been possible only with The Hundred.
My apologies at the lack of clarity. I was referring to my post #84 referencing the unjust distribution of revenue gained by the Hundred which is the reason for my revulsion of it.
Certainly wasn't aware there was a lady's team in the 60's and I was a Durham member then. I'm around Boycott's age and certainly wouldn't turn up my nose at a family enjoying themselves.
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little e
Striker
Thanks for the clarification. You're right about the distribution of the money.
I checked with the missus about her mother and it was late 40s early 50s. Possibly as a result of the war.
So what would have been the alternative. It's selling cricket to a new audience, if there's a better alternative, what is it?
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Voice of fair play
Striker
As much as I agree up to a point, as my main aim has always been to have a top class, top quality T20 tournament in peak time in a window irrespective of whether it was county or franchise based.
The question still has to be asked could that be achieved with 18 teams?
Imo one of the reasons among many of the success of the IPL has been the ability to have each match as a stand alone event in itself where that the only game on that day or time.
Not sure that could be achieved with 18 teams in a relatively small window?
Your argument has been answered countless times and you ignore it. Pointless is repeating the answer.
The argument is that there was already a format i.e domestic T20_attracting children and families which,with the degree of marketing the Hundred has been given, would attract even more given that it's accessible at venues nationwide. County cricket finances are quite robust -ECB turnover is >£300more annum and county revenue is enhanced considerably by staging concerts,conferences and social function e.g. weddings,proms.
The Banks Riverside,for example, is in a beautiful setting for a wedding.
The Hundred haemorrhages s money through paying obscene salaries with no evidence that they have more appeal than the local stars with which the youngsters could more easily identify with.
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Raymondo
Central Defender
The alternative was the format that we created and gave to the rest of the world, the same format that has completely taken over India and has also been a massive success in Australia.
Provider
Striker
The alternative already existed and was getting record crowds before the ECB deliberately sabotaged it.
Only you seems to think that there should only be one game going on at a time and every day. It's an absolutely mental point which is literally only a thing in one competition. Virtually every other competition in every other support manages to succeed with multiple games going on the same time.
The Premier League. A massive success. Games happen simultaneously across multiple days with rest days.
The NFL. The biggest sport in a massive sports mad country. Games happen simultaneously. They even have enhanced the product for a lot of people because of that exact thing.
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You're wasting your time, mate.
"
There's none so blind,as those who cannot see"
refers to individuals who, despite having the ability to see, choose to ignore or refuse to acknowledge the truth or reality in front of them. It highlights the idea that ignorance and stubbornness can be more impairing than physical blindness. Essentially, it suggests that one cannot make someone accept or understand something if they are unwilling to notice or learn.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Fair enough do we think we could have had a successful T20 in a short window in peak time? if so fair play.
My main argument has always been that we should have the top T20 players in the world including our own playing in a high profile competition in peak window i.e school holidays.
If that could have been achieved with the counties then fair enough maybe they should have went down that route rather than The Hundred route?
However they is still people many people out there that still think county championship should be played in August and not a top class T20 competition.
I don’t and will never agree that kids will take up the sport watching a slow paced county championship match which with respect many are rather than a short format T20 match.
Whether it county or franchise has never been my main gripe it’s the lack of realism by some supporters of the best way to get kids engaged in the game in the modern era
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I support tests moving earlier, to get away from PL football. More eyeballs, better TV rights. Cricket gets suffocated otherwise, apart from the core fans. I guess you could have used the first part of August still, and that’s gone directly as a result of the Hundred admittedly.
But move test cricket into August and it’s lost from another prime month (June). The timing of home tests is a nil sum game and not the massive con that it’s painted out as on here.
Provider
Striker
Why do you think that kids will only get interested in cricket if we play T20 in August?
There's plenty of scope for trying to get kids interested outside of that. Especially given that games during the week are played on an evening.
I do think that we could and can have a very successful T20 competition involving the counties. As I've mentioned many times, the Blast drew record crowds in 2019. Maybe if the ECB had put as much time and effort into that as they have The Hundred it would have got even stronger. They are bribing England players to play in The Hundred and subsidising the overseas players. Imagine if they'd done the same The Blast!
And like I've said before, I agree with you that short form is the best way to get kids into the game now but I certainly don't think that should mean zero red ball cricket is played in August.
Sillypoint
Central Defender
However major cricket tournaments only have one game on at a time,
Do you realise the production costs, football and NFL creates enough money to cover it, ECB/Sky can only really afford to be at 2 places at once max for a full cricket production. The hundred crew pretty much pack up straight after the game and head to the next city to set up,
they just couldnt afford to it for every game, the blast games are far better and have more of an event feel when they are on sky even when you are in the ground, replays, 3rd umpire etc, you could argue that its not actually fair to have that technology at some games and not others. but its impossible to do that and cover 18 teams
Provider
Striker
I'm not actually sure what you're talking about. I'm saying every game in the tournament doesn't need to be televised live. Like Premier League football in this country.
