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ECB admits the 16.4 has brought no new fans

No one enjoys it if they really admit it.

A nothing team v a nothing team with county players shuffled about and, apart from the odd few, some mediocre overseas players.

What's not to like? 🤣
 

What’s the demographic on this thread? I speak to kids who prefer it.

I don’t enjoy it myself btw.
its certainly not aimed at people like me who have grown up on test cricket and before the invention of T20 cricket,

but its on FTA TV, and often available on sky without a sports package and its on youtube, i know loads of kids who prefer it, i know my daughter does and the Mrs do

I really quite enjoy it, feels more like an event in the ground than the blast games do, but it will never top test cricket, monday was a prime example, but i cant get them to watch it, sad state of affairs but thats not the hundreds fault, thats t20 in general
 
its certainly not aimed at people like me who have grown up on test cricket and before the invention of T20 cricket,

but its on FTA TV, and often available on sky without a sports package and its on youtube, i know loads of kids who prefer it, i know my daughter does and the Mrs do

I really quite enjoy it, feels more like an event in the ground than the blast games do, but it will never top test cricket, monday was a prime example, but i cant get them to watch it, sad state of affairs but thats not the hundreds fault, thats t20 in general
And you're fully entitled to your viewpoint. Youngsters and anyone new to the game will never immediately be comfortable with the longer form.
What’s the demographic on this thread? I speak to kids who prefer it.

I don’t enjoy it myself btw.
Mainly adults who prefer the longer form of the game. Not surprisingly they're not enamoured by a version which is an adaptation that is designed to appeal to youngsters.
 
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Players burnout eh?

Additional bribe by ECB and greedy players accept it. The supposed guardians of the game are determined to kill a beautiful form of the game and replace it with a children's circus act.
Inevitable and there's nowt you can do about it as Bostock clearly illustrated last week.
 
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Additional bribe by ECB and greedy players accept it. The supposed guardians of the game are determined to kill a beautiful form of the game and replace it with a children's circus act.
Inevitable and there's nowt you can do about it as Bostock clearly illustrated last week.

Incredible really. Players too tired, health and mental health concerns (this generalisation could mask those with genuine cases) but ÂŁÂŁÂŁ later, guess what? As you say though, it all seems inevitable.
 
ECB destroying our summer schedule for foreign TV money.....no one in England want it.....the crowds all get free tickets so it looks good on TV.
It's so disgusting....making a mockery of the one day Cup and having to play County championship in September.
The whole thing is a joke ....
 
The Telegraph article, although it talks about our test players, confirms what all cricket fans knew- that it's not a burnout factor generally thats the reason for wanting to reduce our domestic games. It's that players want to play less county cricket to play in the 16.4 for more money.

Can't blame players for doing that, but it would be better if they were honest enough to admit it.
 
its certainly not aimed at people like me who have grown up on test cricket and before the invention of T20 cricket,

but its on FTA TV, and often available on sky without a sports package and its on youtube, i know loads of kids who prefer it, i know my daughter does and the Mrs do

I really quite enjoy it, feels more like an event in the ground than the blast games do, but it will never top test cricket, monday was a prime example, but i cant get them to watch it, sad state of affairs but thats not the hundreds fault, thats t20 in general
Exactly where I am mate.

I enjoy it tbh, get to catch the woman’s game whilst working, I know all the players (I don’t when I watch the blast)

It’s not on the same level as tests for me but I’d do enjoy it
 
Its not the cricket that's the issue though.

Its the ECB's dangerous obsession to make it a massive success which is impossible in a sport which doesn't make huge amounts of money.

Yes they have sold off the franchises but ÂŁ520 mill is small beer in the grand scheme of things. It will be a nice cash injection for the counties, but no one seems to have the answer to what happens when that money runs out...or what happens to the franchises now the new owners can get their claws into it. They will no doubt want to negotiate their own tv deals, and possibly even take the whole tournament out of the country.

They can do what they like with it and once again the ECB will have been Stanforded.
 
The Telegraph article, although it talks about our test players, confirms what all cricket fans knew- that it's not a burnout factor generally thats the reason for wanting to reduce our domestic games. It's that players want to play less county cricket to play in the 16.4 for more money.

Can't blame players for doing that, but it would be better if they were honest enough to admit it.
They're contracted to the ECB and whatever they say has to be approved by that paymaster.
ECB destroying our summer schedule for foreign TV money.....no one in England want it.....the crowds all get free tickets so it looks good on TV.
It's so disgusting....making a mockery of the one day Cup and having to play County championship in September.
The whole thing is a joke ....
It's destroying the purest form of the game,accept it because it's inevitable.
 
Let them do what they want with it. The ECB and the counties have got their money. Taking it out of the country or playing it late Septenber/earlyOctober ( after our season has finished ) is the best thing for cricket in this country. We then get August back for our competitions and means that test matches can be spread out more to avoid player burn out.
 
I notice that the Sky Cricket Channel hasn't changed its name this August like it has in previous years.

Interesting (well, not really).
 
I think the last thing likely to happen is that it is taken out of the country. The only aspect I can see that has any real value to an external investor is that it’s an officially sanctioned franchise tournament in the country. They’re certainly not buying the nonsense format. If they wanted one elsewhere they could just have set one up.
 
Let them do what they want with it. The ECB and the counties have got their money. Taking it out of the country or playing it late Septenber/earlyOctober ( after our season has finished ) is the best thing for cricket in this country. We then get August back for our competitions and means that test matches can be spread out more to avoid player burn out.
No chance. They've bought the English summer and now they own the English summer.

No test matches in August ever again. Sickening.
 
I think the last thing likely to happen is that it is taken out of the country. The only aspect I can see that has any real value to an external investor is that it’s an officially sanctioned franchise tournament in the country. They’re certainly not buying the nonsense format. If they wanted one elsewhere they could just have set one up.
Yeh but nor can I see it being profitable unless it appeals to the Indian market and it'll only do that with Indians players involved and probably they forming a majority. An IPL played in England.
 
Yeh but nor can I see it being profitable unless it appeals to the Indian market and it'll only do that with Indians players involved and probably they forming a majority. An IPL played in England.
Yeah I’d agree with that. They still seem to like the idea of a global circus though, rather than just having a different league every couple of months in India.

There was something on the radio this morning, prompted by a prompted by a discussion of Jonathan Edwards’s 30-year-old world record, about the catastrophic collapse of athletics in this country. When you also look at the state not just of domestic cricket but rugby union, both propped up solely on the popularity of the international game, the even worse state of league because it doesn’t really have an international game, the almost complete demise of speedway, etc, I’d basically say you can’t run any professional domestic sport at a profit in this country anymore unless it’s football.

And even that doesn’t actually run at a profit for most clubs because of its crazy bubble economics. But at least it probably could.
 
I think the scheduling hasn't been too bad tbh. They always want school holiday time for the 100, but still managed to get the end of the test series overlapping the 6 weeks.

County cricket has the full summer to fit around a month of the hundred - of course international players will be catapulted away from county cricket but thats been the case for years now, no getting away from them following the cash and why shouldn't they, not sure there are many brain cells involved in finding the solution.
 
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