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The Loan System


The Breen Machine said:
Can anyone explain it to me?

In the last 3 weeks I am sure I've seen Dom Bess play for Yorkshire, Warwickshire and today Somerset.
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There is no rules. You can play for any ody all 28 counties if you want to.

ECB are looking into it end of this season.

And hopefully rules will be enforced for next season.
 
viccarlton said:
It’s pathetic marra, Durham are just as bad, you often turn up for a game and have to ask “who’s that?”
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In fairness that's not through choice, our injuries have been ridiculous. Weve signed 4 or 5 spinners when wanting just murphy. The lad from Warwickshire whi got injured after a game, or toole, would never have happened if macalindon had stayed fit.

The list is endless like
 
I think they should be a minimum term on the duration of a loan and similar to what FIFA incorporate, you can't play for more than 3 clubs in 12 months in your own domestic league.
 
Is this a relatively new thing?

Seems loads more activity between counties not just these loans but transfers as well, can’t remember it being so prevalent in the past
 
mackembhoy said:
Bess a yorkshire spinner on loan at Somerset. The club that loaned him out to Yorkshire last season and let him leave in the summer.

While Moriaty a Surrey spinner is on loan at Yorkshire. f***ing ludicrous
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This was a point I made on Twitter when Bess first went out on loan. It makes a mockery of it. If Yorkshire are sending a spinner out on loan, they shouldn’t be able to sign a spinner on loan themselves, they obviously don’t need him. For me it should only be used in the case of injuries, which is the main reason we’ve used the system.
 
The Breen Machine said:
I think they should be a minimum term on the duration of a loan and similar to what FIFA incorporate, you can't play for more than 3 clubs in 12 months in your own domestic league.
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Wouldn’t you then just simply have cricketers twiddling their thumbs signed for a team who have no intention of playing them?

The way the season is scheduled doesn’t help and is probably the biggest issue in all of it anyway.
Lumley End said:
This was a point I made on Twitter when Bess first went out on loan. It makes a mockery of it. If Yorkshire are sending a spinner out on loan, they shouldn’t be able to sign a spinner on loan themselves, they obviously don’t need him. For me it should only be used in the case of injuries, which is the main reason we’ve used the system.
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I agree with @mackembhoy who calls it ludicrous, but you do have to appreciate that in the example used it isn’t as simple as merely calling it ‘spinner for spinner’. Dom Bess bowls ‘right arm off breaks’, whilst Daniel Moriarty is a ‘slow left arm orthodox’ bowler, that’s two completely different bowling styles.
 
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brandon said:
Wouldn’t you then just simply have cricketers twiddling their thumbs signed for a team who have no intention of playing them?
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This is my thoughts, it seems to me that the increase is more to do with players wanting to play than teams wanting to profiteer the system.

Although perhaps there is a decline in youth take up driving a lack of realistic (competitive) options in second xi cricket
 
You have to impose some structure to it though, Dom Bess can't be far off becoming a freelance county cricketer.

Minimum loan terms need to be introduced. Yorkshire are playing a loan spinner whilst their own spinner has just been sent out on loan elsewhere, that's not right surely?
 
Some observations on this system, that I’ve gleaned this week.

Durham have benefitted tonight from the Kasey Aldridge loan, it’s interesting that he was recalled to play red ball cricket for Somerset this week - yet they seem happy to let him play the white ball stuff for us.

The opposite arrangement is true with Ben Green. Somerset have loaned him to Leicestershire for the red ball stuff (where he’s been excellent for them), but insist he plays T20 for them, as it appears he’s somewhat of a specialist.

Somerset as a whole seem to be very important to county cricket regarding loaning players out - see also Jake Ball and Shoaib Bashir off the top of my head to go along with the two above.

I’m just rambling, but I always find these little cricketing tidbits interesting.
 
Still makes me chuckle when I remember the absolute moral outrage when see signed Shakib Al Hassan for one game last year when this sort of shit goes on all the time :lol:
 
TheRey said:
Still makes me chuckle when I remember the absolute moral outrage when see signed Shakib Al Hassan for one game last year when this sort of shit goes on all the time :lol:
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That Zampa signing is a good acquisition mind. Is he just here for the end of the T20?
 
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