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Eng vs India - First Test - 20th-24th June


rentaghost said:
It’s also the finest of fine lines between a quality pull shot and one the you slightly mistime. It doesn’t have to be idiocy every time a player is out playing an aggressive shot.
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Fair enough. I can’t really agree with you in this case - it was a clear enough ruse in the game context. Indeed it doesn’t have to be idiocy every time a player plays an aggressive shot, but when an obvious plan in that context is set up for that outcome, it could have been avoided. Never mind, we aren’t going to agree on this :-D
 
hank evans said:
At times I’ve been critical of the approach, but I fully accept that we were lost as a team before this approach came in. I feel more he didn’t go through the shot full blooded this time, which is frustrating.

We can’t say its not entertaining though we are going along at 4.7 here after 91 overs and we are more than in the game. This team has made test cricket a better watch over the last 3 years
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Of course it has I agree and what it does it gives us a better chance of winning test matches.

Pre Bazball after India had posted their high first innings score that would have been game over in terms of England winning as they simply would not have scored they runs quick enough.

Meaning only two results would have been possible draw or India win.

This style clearly frustrates some but it means three results possible including a England win.
 
Really not sure why carse was getting that funky with his batting. He was doing fine without trying to scoop or back a mile away. Especially as a bowler primarily
 
mackembhoy said:
I'd like to see some evolution of this approach though.

It's excellent but lacks pragmatism that you also need in test cricket.

How does Smith shot selection make any sense. Not a single person can defend that.

It's more nuanced then plenty are making it. Everyone is pretty binary on it which is frustrating.

Seems to be two camps that just go well you can't complain they get out cos they play all the great shots.

Then you have the camp they are morons everytime they get out to a bad shot.
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Good points. I will defend Smith though - he was trying to get as many runs before the new ball as he could. For me it was totally in keeping with trying to eat into the deficit as quickly as possible. Got to take the rough with the smooth with this approach - an argument that I know is hated on here!
 
mackembhoy said:
I'd like to see some evolution of this approach though.

It's excellent but lacks pragmatism that you also need in test cricket.

How does Smith shot selection make any sense. Not a single person can defend that.

It's more nuanced then plenty are making it. Everyone is pretty binary on it which is frustrating.

Seems to be two camps that just go well you can't complain they get out cos they play all the great shots.

Then you have the camp they are morons everytime they get out to a bad shot.
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As much as I see your point, getting that perfect balance almost impossible.

And I think the team working on it, this notion that they all brainless I disagree with

I more than accept some of the mistakes made as it undoubtedly increases our chances of winning test matches.

And not only has it increased our chances it has increased our win ratio.
 
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