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Jordan Henderson (signed for Brentford)
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MarcoG
Striker
He doesn't do that though. He's never really done that. His phsyicality has always been his main way of playing to his best level. It's hardly a surprise he played for Liverpool and was a key player for Klopp in that era where they pressed like crazy. You could use him as the deepest midfielder in that team because as a unit they'd all be flying about up the pitch trying to press the other team into a mistake with a really high defensive line, even then Klopp still went to Fabinho as the sitter and moved Henderson higher up the pitch when he could. At 35 he's not suddenly going to be able change his game that drastically to now become composed enough not to want to press. Similarish to when we signed Leadbitter (obviously Henderson's miles better, not comparing their ability) and he was supposed to sit, he couldn't do it. Just wasn't his game.
We'd be far better off with a mobile ball winner, someone in the mould of Joao Palhinha than we would be Henderson. Our midfield already lacks physicality so if you take Bellingham out and put in a 35 year old who's legs started going a few years ago then it's not gonna be great. People just keep blindly screaming EXPERIENCE for whatever reason like it makes it an amazing signing. Quite literally thousands of players we could sign with experience and a decent chunk will be a better fit.
BarrySheensAutograph
Midfield
Has he signed yet
joop
Striker
Many people go to work in Saudi Arabia, they don’t seem to be aggressed against in the same way as Henderson.
vinegar hill
Striker
From a purely footballing point of view it’s a no brainier to sign him.
First season back in the Premiership he’d be ideal for us.
All the Saudi shit though and the potential negativity around that,I don’t know.
First season back in the Premiership he’d be ideal for us.
All the Saudi shit though and the potential negativity around that,I don’t know.
Bears Beets
Striker
He could be a Steve Bould esque signing, a real leader around the dressing room with tons of experience and respect.
Then again he could have the same impact as Alan Stubbs
Then again he could have the same impact as Alan Stubbs
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Locke's SAFC
Striker
The second point is correct. Henderson does in fact have the money to not need to go to Saudi.
The main point is bollocks, however. Nobody on this board gives the first fuck about what happens in Saudi. FACTNESS!
All of these virtue signallers on this board would have been in Saudi for about 500 quid a week man. FACTNESS, NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
The absolute state. You people really think you're kidding everyone with your bullshit.
Many people who go to work there are just ordinary people, they aren’t as wealthy, and,they haven’t campaigned so vociferously and publically for human rights as Henderson, rightly to his credit did.
To then, go and play/sign for a team in a country that goes against all of the principles he’s brilliantly supported.
I’m kidding nobody, and I’m not sure who you are to tell me I am or who I think I’m kidding with my bullshit.
It’s certainly not virtue signalling, I said the same when he first went there.
Arrogance at its best.
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Sumdumgi
Striker
Most supporters couldn’t give a monkeys, he would be welcomed back with open arms.
vinegar hill
Striker
I agree I reckon most.
I think there’d be a large enough minority though to cause a stir.
The Beautiful Game
Striker
I have to say, his doubling down on his motives for moving did him no favours. His move was clearly motivated by money, not politics. And while he probably underestimated the blowback—especially given his previous support for LGBTQ+ causes—it doesn’t make him an agent of the regime. He’s not out there promoting it. He played football there. It’s a grey area, but it’s not the same as being part of sportswashing.
Off the bat, I think there’s a huge difference between moving to a Saudi club and supporting the regime behind the PIF that owns the club. I know plenty of lads who work over there, they aren’t supporting the regime, they’re just doing a job. Henderson didn’t sign for a PIF-owned club. Al-Ettifaq is privately owned. Yes, it’s still in Saudi Arabia, which has laws and cultural norms that many of us would consider repressive, especially towards women and LGBTQ+ people. But the club itself isn’t an arm of the regime in the way Newcastle United is directly tied to the Saudi state.
I’m hoping he’ll realise he’s made a mistake and acknowledge it but he’s failed to do so in the past. That said, I think it was a lapse in judgement which he corrected in a few months. People make mistakes in life, I don’t think it should condemn them for good. In this case, I certainly wouldn’t extrapolate Henderson’s mistakes onto SAFC.
From a footballing perspective, he’s a player who’s never relied on pace. He’s an intelligent player, knows the league, won everything there is to win domestically, loves the club. Who wouldn’t want someone like that in the dressing room? I’m annoyed at him for his decisions and tarnishing this link, but I think he’d be a huge asset.
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Mattyrobinson
Full Back
That was a bit tongue in cheek, but I still think the overall point holds.
If he's like a James Milner then it's a no brainer. If he's starting to fade then it's a very different proposition.
Sorry, I think many could give a monkey’s.
Mowgli
Striker
Milner has faded but you still regard him as a no brainer?
People don't have a crystal ball
Not at all. After his abusive posts I'm entitled to have a go back. Why are yoy defending him?
I'm completely baffled as to why you'd dig that up and have a go at me. Did the disgusting insults and provocation he threw at me pass you by?
If people are going to cause trouble and wind people up, I think people are entitled to call them out. I don't start with ad hominem, but I'm human and have a threshold...
Did you call the other poster out for his comments?
Edit: Sorry, yes you did call him out. My apologies!
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Sumdumgi
Striker
It’ll have virtually no impact on his support should he walk out again in the red & white stripes. I can’t see people not going, protesting or anything else impacting upon the team or the Club or Henderson as an individual. It’ll not even be a topic of conversation amongst most fans.
Exactly we will be too busy cheering him to the rafters.BHH
I agree it won’t have any impact, but that surely shouldn’t mean I can’t express an opinion about it. Without being called a virtual signaller.
Fact Hunt
Striker
What about Israel’s actions in Gaza? If you dared go there then I suspect you’d be more likely be strung-up by the IDF than the people of Gaza.
What a strange bloke you are, Chewit.
Sumdumgi
Striker
I’ve not said you can’t express an opinion and haven’t said anything about virtue signalling, I’m expressing an opinion too. I have misgivings about his actions but it doesn’t override my feeling that he’d be a decent signing.
