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Methven still claiming credit


Can’t he take on a role at Oxford and we can revisit our derby games again.

The bloke came across as a real pompous twat on STID.
Laughable when he mentioned not understanding the people of the NE.
 
Arcas Left Peg said:
Aye. We just didn't realise he was a part of that party
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I’ve got mixed feelings about them tbh, at least they cleared out the dead wood and ultimately got Short to write off the debt
I know that included the parachute payments, and if they’d told us that from the start I think fans might have accepted it.
 
Rokeroar said:
I’ve got mixed feelings about them tbh, at least they cleared out the dead wood and ultimately got Short to write off the debt
I know that included the parachute payments, and if they’d told us that from the start I think fans might have accepted it.
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I just can't ever forgive either of them for the academy fire sale. Absolute chancers who deliberately threw away long term prospects for a quick buck.
 
superhans1 said:
I didn't realise he'd brought in Speakman and recruitment team. I thought that was Kyril. If it was Donald and Meth then they should get some credit for that. Those hires are what led to a team capable of getting promoted.
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Donald and Methven had nowt to do with them coming in. Just another instance of them trying to claim the credit for anything that goes well whilst blaming everyone but themselves for their failings.
 
Arcas Left Peg said:
I just can't ever forgive either of them for the academy fire sale. Absolute chancers who deliberately threw away long term prospects for a quick buck.
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Our academy lads will have wanted to move onto better clubs. We were dwelling in league one, it's amazing we managed to hang onto our category 1 status in all honesty.
 
hertsmackem said:
Where to start, a week on from the tumultuous play-offs weekend of the EFL? Probably the most professionally satisfying weekend of my career. Not because I was there lifting trophies - I was not, being here in Jamaica watching on the TV - but because promises had been kept; plans had come good.
When I met with Ellis Short in April 2018 prior to taking the club over a few weeks later, it is hard to overstate just how broken Sunderland AFC was. £180 million in debt (much of it to aggressive money-lenders at exorbitant interest rates), and losing £27 million per annum on an operational basis, the club had just finished bottom of the Championship, four points behind Burton Albion. The average crowd that season at the SoL had been a paltry (by SAFC standards) 27,000. We inherited players on multi-season multi-million £ contracts who were quite open about not wanting to play for the club (indeed, several failed to report for pre-season training)
Now is not the time to recount the whole rollercoaster ride (losing twice in the play-offs and making a notorious failed signing!) but certain recollections merit re-visiting, as seminal moments in the re-birth.
Sat alongside Stewart Donald at a Wearside desk, with our red pens systematically chopping out the waste that had brought the club low; Luke O'Nien driving up from L2 Wycombe Wanderers, with his worldly possessions packed in the back of his battered old VW; interviewing (Sporting Director) Kristjaan Speakman on Zoom during the pandemic and seeing his IQ as something rarely encountered in football; being told not to let (head of recruitment) Stuart Harvey get into his car without signing him up, after his interview; travelling to the Italian Lakes in late 2020 to persuade Kyril Dreyfus that he was the guy that could take the club to the next level. From the co-owners to the Sporting Director, the head of recruitment and the club captain, Stewart and I brought them all to the club, believing that they could continue and complete what we had started. Seven years from disaster and possible extinction back to the Promised Land is not bad going, though it is a year or two more than I originally predicted!

Charlton was a different kettle of fish. Much of the club was healthy (not least its Academy and Community Trust), and its fanbase resilient.
However, the business operation and the First Team environment were muddled. The culture (unlike SAFC's) was not toxic but weak. Learning from Sunderland, where we were slow to get the executive team right, strong appointments were made early. In amidst all the deserved praise for others this week, a word for Andy Scott, who left the club in January, but who signed Kayne Ramsay, Thierry Small, Conor Coventry, Greg Docherty, Macualey Gillesphey and Matt Godden for a combined £450,000. Nathan Jones was always Andy's first choice manager, but we eventually got him in Jan '24... and the rest is history. A hugely gratifying 2 year turnaround for a club I'll always love.
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WTF is all the Charlton shit ?
Who on here gives a crap how much Charlton paid for their players , post it on their forum if they have one.
 
Arcas Left Peg said:
I just can't ever forgive either of them for the academy fire sale. Absolute chancers who deliberately threw away long term prospects for a quick buck.
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But the club was best part of £200 million in dept and loosing millions every month, might have been looking at going into administration. Short is the real villain , sure salmon pants and Donald made mistakes, but they got the club back on an even keel, and if Charlie is indeed responsible for bringing in Speakman, and persuading Kyril to come on board, I dont see where this hatred towards him is coming from
 
I seem to recall Salmon pants saying north east supporters don't understand business or something like that, I might be wrong but sure he did and It was the beginning of the end for him after that statement
 
Tex said:
I couldn’t suffer watching STID until we were promoted out of league one so I didn’t see it until years after it was originally broadcast.
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If you watch that show and him in isolation he mostly comes off as OK and at least committed to wanting to do a good job. That match where he promised - was it 40k? - and they gave him the attendance pitch side at half time and he was genuinely over the moon that the goal was achieved.

I think the problem is with other stuff he said outside of STID which I didn’t see / hear myself but obviously happened when he disparaged the town and the people and reckoned we were a bunch of brainless oiks massively inferior to his Eton and Oxbridge education - that was when he shit in his own nest and there was no coming back from that. Similar to Donald and the alleged kidnapping of his daughter - just a pitiful manipulation of the truth to serve his own ends.
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As a few have mentioned, there's a fair bit in his post that is simply wrong. But even the crowd thing, I remember watching STID and you'd think it was all his hard work. Iirc a hell of a lot of the credit for it was down to fans donating tickets to the foundation but aye, that part was totally overlooked on the show in favour of making it look like a Methven marketing stroke of genius.

I wasn't involved with rawa much back then, certainly didn't meet him or Donald in that capacity, but I've heard enough from others to know it's probably best just to ignore the bloke. Best forgotten tbh
 
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