Aston Villa planning complaint to Premier League

[Voice of fair play]

If you read the club’s statement, they are not looking to go down the legal route or change things.

There is no complaint is, out of 10 refs yesterday, why were we allocated the 2nd least experienced ref when so much was at stake.

And incompetence is far greater that just a mistake.

It was a mistake and a big mistake that happens always and always will not matter how experienced somebody is.

History has proved that, the culture is all wrong.

Players make massive mistakes in big games, yet most know they did not make that mistake on purpose so either feel sorry for them or sympathy.

Feel the same for a ref in the heat of the moment with one look.

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And @Voice of fair play reckons it’s embarrassing to suggest they might have paid anyone off

That doesn’t include yesterday either.

They is always going to be somebody who benefits more over a season than another team, it’s impossible for it to be perfectly equal.

Only conspiracy theories or daft buggers make anything more of it.

I am sure if you went through every league and every level a team would be top and a team bottom if they kept stats on refs decisions going against or for them.

Only fools make anything more than coincidence out of it imo

No mate, it's still just a mistake.

It’s just happens you correct, the Coventry defender made a massive mistake in the first leg of our play off game, so did Moore in the final.

The game is littered with players mistakes that cost teams games in big games.

But that seems accepted because it’s always happened.

Exactly the same applies to refs.

 

[Gobuchul]

They were down to 10 men after a stone wall red card and were playing poorly.

xG of 0.4 compared to 2.86 for Man Utd.

The reason they lost was due to their performance.

 

[SurreyMackem]

Just seen it and it looked a foul initially so free kick but in the replay the keeper had it under control but decided not to pick it up as they do these days so technically it wasn't a foul.

In the end it was the sending off cost them.

 

[englishman abroad]

No one will ever convince they don't get favourable treatment by the premier league
9 times out 10 its a hand ball by Livramento then the ref at the Man U Villa game denied a perfectly good goal, even Don Hutchison admitted as much on my comms

They were down to 10 men after a stone wall red card and were playing poorly.

xG of 0.4 compared to 2.86 for Man Utd.

The reason they lost was due to their performance.

The reason they lost was they had a perfectly good goal ruled out

 

[nelford_safc]

They were down to 10 men after a stone wall red card and were playing poorly.

xG of 0.4 compared to 2.86 for Man Utd.

The reason they lost was due to their performance.

 

[molthemackem]

More shocking refereeing decisions by Howard and his buddies. How can you appoint a referee with little EPL experience to a game of that size, I was going to say magnitude but couldn't spell it properly, where the result was determining the top positions.

BTW, We saw smug Howard and a mate on Saturday doing his corporate bit for Wembley.. "Penalty" Howard we cried only for him to laugh and walk on ignoring our jibes, much as he did for Everton all those years ago.

 

[Dick Fitzwell]

It was a mistake and a big mistake that happens always and always will not matter how experienced somebody is.

History has proved that, the culture is all wrong.

Players make massive mistakes in big games, yet most know they did not make that mistake on purpose so either feel sorry for them or sympathy.

Feel the same for a ref in the heat of the moment with one look.

They is always going to be somebody who benefits more over a season than another team, it’s impossible for it to be perfectly equal.

Only conspiracy theories or daft buggers make anything more of it.

I am sure if you went through every league and every level a team would be top and a team bottom if they kept stats on refs decisions going against or for them.

Only fools make anything more than coincidence out of it imo

It’s just happens you correct, the Coventry defender made a massive mistake in the first leg of our play off game, so did Moore in the final.

The game is littered with players mistakes that cost teams games in big games.

But that seems accepted because it’s always happened.

Exactly the same applies to refs.

Got to agree with pretty much all of that VoFP marra but I do think this experience for the young ref will now make him wait just a few more seconds when blowing the whistle in future.
Maybe a more experienced Prem ref may have done that very thing, we will never know. As you rightly said it’s a mistake not something done deliberately.

 

[Cridge]

Karma works in wonderful ways. Goal line technology 'failing' basically kept you in the league. I wonder if that was seen as corruption...

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Not really. Earlier that season we were cheated out of a perfectly good goal that would have given us the point needed to stay up anyway

 

[Stella Spark]

Why didn't VAR sort it?

 

[zebediah]

Why didn't VAR sort it?

Once the ref blows the game stops, he blew before the ball crossed the line.
Which is why they wait till the passage of play ends before blowing, except on this occasion.
I hear the ref has received his 1st class tickets to Jeddah already.

 

[Stroitel Pripyat]

Correct. Moan when VAR goes against them. Moan when ref makes a mistake. Just moan generally. Too much money involved. Simple as that.

Don’t be daft man.
Is there a ref Newcastle haven’t paid off this season?
Ref made a mistake.
Did that daft Argie getting himself send off stink of Saudi money as well?

Well they should ask for their money back if they paid the ref yesterday. As for the season as whole, I'd pay those refs a bit more next time round as they only finished 5th.

 

[elder]

Martinez was arguably a red for serious foul play, even before thinking about DOGSO.

i was kidding mind...

 

[Lionel Hutzz]

It’s beyond belief with all the messing around with VAR that the officials are still getting it so badly wrong. I fully understand villas frustration they’ve missed out on champions league due to gross incompetence. I actually think the officials get too much protection

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Another outrageously bad decision. Pre VAR you could say they even themselves out but it’s just staggering they get it so badly wrong

 

[McMackem]

Still can’t believe he blew his whistle, just let the play carry on and then go to var

This - VAR has been around long enough that if a ball is clearly going dead (never mind into the goal) you don't blow, to stop live play when its not as if the keeper got kicked or roughed up was an unforgiveable reffing error.

 

[Biffo The Bear]

Well they should ask for their money back if they paid the ref yesterday. As for the season as whole, I'd pay those refs a bit more next time round as they only finished 5th.

A trophy and a CL place would, imho, be seen as money well spent. If indeed the conspiracy theorists were proven to be correct.

 

[Voice of fair play]

Got to agree with pretty much all of that VoFP marra but I do think this experience for the young ref will now make him wait just a few more seconds when blowing the whistle in future.
Maybe a more experienced Prem ref may have done that very thing, we will never know. As you rightly said it’s a mistake not something done deliberately.

Or yeah mate not disputing it was a bad mistake just making the point when big mistakes are made by players they accepted by fans etc.

When big mistakes are made by refs they not!

When both have happened since forever!

 

[Boinger]

Karma works in wonderful ways. Goal line technology 'failing' basically kept you in the league. I wonder if that was seen as corruption...

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Absolutely this ^.

They would have been in serious financial trouble had they been relegated, as that goal may well have done for them.

The arseholes have absolutely no shame, and I am surprised the press are not making more of a mockery of their hypocrisy.

Probably dont want upset the future king.

 

[Kevin Arnott's right boot]

It’s not the ref blowing early that’s the issue but that the blowing early has owt to do with it at all. VAR should still be able to stick its nose in regardless. If everyone all over the planet watching on the telly knows it’s the wrong decision immediately following some nonsensical immovable rule compounds the mistake even further. But as I always say wtf can you expect from a set up that considered Webb And Poll to be our best refs then sent them out onto the world stage to make English reffing look stupid.

Where do you draw the line though? Right from being bairns, we were taught to play to the whistle.

We can't have situations where everyone just ignores the ref's whistle and keeps on playing until the ball goes dead, just in case there might be a goal later in the passage of play. It would be farcical.

 

[Bonzo]

They should ask for a playoff with the ones who finished 5

 

[Cridge]

Absolutely this ^.

They would have been in serious financial trouble had they been relegated, as that goal may well have done for them.

The arseholes have absolutely no shame, and I am surprised the press are not making more of a mockery of their hypocrisy.

Probably dont want upset the future king.

Ohhh look at me everyone. I really hate the voile. Weem got a big derby down here and weem really hate each other.