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Two Bob owners


Football isn't like it used to be. Clubs need to adhere to financial restrictions, and unless you are owned by countries with awful human rights records, you need to be smarter.

We have an owner that is making us sustainable and competing against clubs that have due to parachute payments far bigger budgets.

I like the so called model we have because for once we have a clear plan and it is working. It might not be working as fast as people want/expect but we are improving as a club, on and off the pitch.

Whatever happens in the play offs, this summer is going to be huge for KLD.
If we don't go up we will inevitably lose players but the money we will make has to be used improving our squad.
 
Alfa said:
I think KLD’s approach has some virtue but unless he changes things with the money that will inevitably come in from player sales this summer we could become a groundhog season club in the championship.

Assemble a good core of promising youngsters who when fit and energetic can hold their own with any side in the league. As the gruelling nature of a 46 game season takes its toll face a decision in the January transfer window. The default position (there’s very little value in January) kicks in and the side inevitably fall away leaving us at best a shot at a four side lottery.

Rinse and repeat
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Spot on. I can see us being like Boro. Stuck in the league for years.
 
safcb88 said:
You said where still recovering from the damage of Ellis short but he wrote off our debt before selling to Stewart Donald. The club was debt free when sold
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It wasn't. Short simply moved the last £25m into Drumaville, and then took £25m of the parachute to pay it off. The "debt free" thing was a cosmetic fiction cooked up by him and Donald.
MiddleAgedMan said:
Again, this frustration should be directed at the bureaucrats in UEFA, FIFA, the FA and government.

They have ruined football. We should not be needing to spend billions to just be mid table premier league.

Football fans are the best at spending other people's money.
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This. The basic thrust of the OP's argument is that the function of an owner is to put his fortune (however earned) at the disposal of whichever club he owns. To be blunt, If I were a regulator, I'd prohibit all owner inputs.
 
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Biglicks said:
Thats all we’ve ever had..
The only one who invested any kind of decent money was Short but put muppets in charge of it.
Never willing to take the next step and change us from the so called sleeping giant to a club that can hold its own. A brief flirt under Reid in my 45 years as a supporter is pathetic.
We’re so used to watching shite we over exaggerate the talents of anyone who shows a glimpse of anything near being any good.
Rigg isn’t going to set the world alight nor Bellingham either. They’re just decent that’s all.
This club deserves better than the penny pinching swindlers we’ve had in the past. It’s a crime that we’ve struggled so badly for the last 50 years.
If by a miracle we triumph in the play offs this owner will shit himself and we’ll be the whipping boys of nxt years premier league.
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Short could have been class with decent football people instead of Mags….
Cowie was Ok.
Can’t fault Murray.
Donald was a prick (and a thief)
Don’t mind KLD…he said what he was going to do from day 1 and has done…
 
I think your owners are great. They have a clear plan (even if you might not agree with it at times) and that counts for a lot, a real lot in modern football.

Days of owners punting million after million are long gone and even the ones that do (ours for example) don't guarantee success. In our case the almost opposite. In Brightons case they've done well with it, but they are still an extreme case. Bloom has spent a fortune.

However, the bigger picture is one that arguably takes owner investment or plans or policies or whatever right out of the equation.

We live in a world that is a closed shop sadly where the game only serves the chosen few and anyone trying to break into that will eventually be found out.
 
LRW said:
This ongoing love for Short ('he was let down by the people around him') is just really weird, and always has been.

When Ellis Short took over, we were established in the Premier League. When he left, he had taken the parachute payments and we were in League One.

When Louis-Dreyfus took over, we were still in League One. We're now in the playoff places of the Championship. And still recovering from the damage of Ellis Short.

I don't like or trust Louis-Dreyfus, or frankly any football club owner. I don't like 'the model', I don't like many of the decisions he has made, especially on managers.

But FFS, there is no comparison between what the two of them have done there. It's as if the only criterion against which you judge club owners is how much of their money they waste.
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He sanctioned some big money buys we just spent on shit like N,Dong
 
OakeyStokie said:
I think your owners are great. They have a clear plan (even if you might not agree with it at times) and that counts for a lot, a real lot in modern football.

Days of owners punting million after million are long gone and even the ones that do (ours for example) don't guarantee success. In our case the almost opposite. In Brightons case they've done well with it, but they are still an extreme case. Bloom has spent a fortune.

However, the bigger picture is one that arguably takes owner investment or plans or policies or whatever right out of the equation.

We live in a world that is a closed shop sadly where the game only serves the chosen few and anyone trying to break into that will eventually be found out.
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Brighton owe their owner £400 mill if he ever decides to leave.....
 
Biglicks said:
Thats all we’ve ever had..
The only one who invested any kind of decent money was Short but put muppets in charge of it.
Never willing to take the next step and change us from the so called sleeping giant to a club that can hold its own. A brief flirt under Reid in my 45 years as a supporter is pathetic.
We’re so used to watching shite we over exaggerate the talents of anyone who shows a glimpse of anything near being any good.
Rigg isn’t going to set the world alight nor Bellingham either. They’re just decent that’s all.
This club deserves better than the penny pinching swindlers we’ve had in the past. It’s a crime that we’ve struggled so badly for the last 50 years.
If by a miracle we triumph in the play offs this owner will shit himself and we’ll be the whipping boys of nxt years premier league.
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LRW said:
This ongoing love for Short ('he was let down by the people around him') is just really weird, and always has been.

When Ellis Short took over, we were established in the Premier League. When he left, he had taken the parachute payments and we were in League One.

When Louis-Dreyfus took over, we were still in League One. We're now in the playoff places of the Championship. And still recovering from the damage of Ellis Short.

I don't like or trust Louis-Dreyfus, or frankly any football club owner. I don't like 'the model', I don't like many of the decisions he has made, especially on managers.

But FFS, there is no comparison between what the two of them have done there. It's as if the only criterion against which you judge club owners is how much of their money they waste.
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No we weren't, we had just gone up, he was part of the reason why Keane left. The parachute payments were used by Donald to actually buy the club. We were all buzzing when short took over as he was a billionaire,but typical mags got an even richer owner shortly after. Fast forward to league 1, KLD took over and we are now in the championship in the playoffs The trouble is at the same time the mags have been took by the Saudis and have spent over half a billion. That's what its really all about.
 
Biglicks said:
Thats all we’ve ever had..
The only one who invested any kind of decent money was Short but put muppets in charge of it.
Never willing to take the next step and change us from the so called sleeping giant to a club that can hold its own. A brief flirt under Reid in my 45 years as a supporter is pathetic.
We’re so used to watching shite we over exaggerate the talents of anyone who shows a glimpse of anything near being any good.
Rigg isn’t going to set the world alight nor Bellingham either. They’re just decent that’s all.
This club deserves better than the penny pinching swindlers we’ve had in the past. It’s a crime that we’ve struggled so badly for the last 50 years.
If by a miracle we triumph in the play offs this owner will shit himself and we’ll be the whipping boys of nxt years premier league.
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Yep.
 
OakeyStokie said:
I think your owners are great. They have a clear plan (even if you might not agree with it at times) and that counts for a lot, a real lot in modern football.

Days of owners punting million after million are long gone and even the ones that do (ours for example) don't guarantee success. In our case the almost opposite. In Brightons case they've done well with it, but they are still an extreme case. Bloom has spent a fortune.

However, the bigger picture is one that arguably takes owner investment or plans or policies or whatever right out of the equation.

We live in a world that is a closed shop sadly where the game only serves the chosen few and anyone trying to break into that will eventually be found out.
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Not asking him to pump billions..
Just buy some established players that have half a chance to get us out of this shitty league. He has no passion for what he’s doing.
 
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