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haway the wizards said:
What happens in the stadium? What’s do ya want us as a dnvase to do to stop it? I’ve asked this a few times and haven’t been given an answer just deflecting questions and having a pop at me over something they think I am for daring to wanna go to the football to watch football rather than knowing what i really am like.

So go protest about it why bring it into football why do I have to watch sky SPORTS news or read a FOOTBALL message board and seee peoples views on it.

Opposition player falls over somoene shouts get up ya soft puff you would have them banned and arrested for discrimination serious question? If it’s yes then you’re an absolute wrongen if someone is doing monkey gestures n that then it’s clearly racist. By the way how many people do ya call out at the match for Thai behaviour. If it’s still such a massive problem?
How many people on here have called someone out for being racist or giving gay people abuse at the football this season? If so how many so we can all see if it’s as big an issue than what people are making out.
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Protests don't work mate ,it has to be a societal change and while folk like you exist im guessing its not going to change anytime soon!
 

oddbod said:
To true and i guess they will be less than a fiver to manufacture?
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You’d think so wouldn’t you?

Like I said the design is great, but just spend an extra quid or 2 to make the quality that bit better man - considering these are selling for more than what the kits are currently at.
 
mrmarmalade said:
It's all part of a wider agenda to destroy the West. These disingenuous lefties know it, but they pretend it's for reasons of virtue. If the shoe was on the other foot - they would be outraged if the club started an endless campaign of traditional/conservative/right-wing propaganda.

These leftists were outraged when Di Canio was appointed. They are hypocrites.
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It’s a football top marra.
 
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haway the wizards said:
What happens in the stadium? What’s do ya want us as a dnvase to do to stop it? I’ve asked this a few times and haven’t been given an answer just deflecting questions and having a pop at me over something they think I am for daring to wanna go to the football to watch football rather than knowing what i really am like.

So go protest about it why bring it into football why do I have to watch sky SPORTS news or read a FOOTBALL message board and seee peoples views on it.

Opposition player falls over somoene shouts get up ya soft puff you would have them banned and arrested for discrimination serious question? If it’s yes then you’re an absolute wrongen if someone is doing monkey gestures n that then it’s clearly racist. By the way how many people do ya call out at the match for Thai behaviour. If it’s still such a massive problem?
How many people on here have called someone out for being racist or giving gay people abuse at the football this season? If so how many so we can all see if it’s as big an issue than what people are making out.
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How old are you mate ? i hope its over 60 as its your only saving grace!
 
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haway the wizards said:
What happens in the stadium? What’s do ya want us as a dnvase to do to stop it? I’ve asked this a few times and haven’t been given an answer just deflecting questions and having a pop at me over something they think I am for daring to wanna go to the football to watch football rather than knowing what i really am like.

So go protest about it why bring it into football why do I have to watch sky SPORTS news or read a FOOTBALL message board and seee peoples views on it.

Opposition player falls over somoene shouts get up ya soft puff you would have them banned and arrested for discrimination serious question? If it’s yes then you’re an absolute wrongen if someone is doing monkey gestures n that then it’s clearly racist. By the way how many people do ya call out at the match for Thai behaviour. If it’s still such a massive problem?
How many people on here have called someone out for being racist or giving gay people abuse at the football this season? If so how many so we can all see if it’s as big an issue than what people are making out.
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I would tell someone that it's 2025 and calling someone a puff isn't acceptable anymore. You're saying monkey gestures are clearly racist but calling someone a puff isn't homophobic? It's that dinosaur mentality that establishes a need for campaings such a this one. I haven't openly heard anyone around me use racist or homphobic language where I am in the ground. To be honest mate, the more you type the worse you're making yourself sound.
 
Get Into Em said:
The literal Oxford dictionary literally precedes the definition of Cultural Marxism with "(Amoung some right-wing thinkers)" when I've Googled, so you'll have to forgive me for not being in the loop. It's not a lie and I didn't do any mental gymnastics: I'm just not full of right-wing hysteria. Linking football in any way to Marxism is mental, period.

Any chance of answering the rest of my post? Still think football and politics should be neutral?

If that's the case, your ideal is to get rid of poppy's at the football, have no rememberence day celebration, get rid of minutes silences, no more charitable donations in or around stadiums, no communication between football clubs and police/councils, no foreign investment, scrap the Secretary for Culture, Media, and Sport, ensure no government funding in grassroots football, councils immediately close and convert council owned football pitches, no football related arrests, no political figures in or around football grounds, no government/council funding to football clubs or their associated charities/foundations, no policing within football including travel, football clubs and their owners to be not-for-profit and thus don't pay taxes, no extra travel routes for football fans on away days, no host-nation World Cup, no host-nation Euros, no government funding to improve areas within and around stadiums, absolutely zero accountability at a government level for owners using the sport as a means to sportswash, no health and safety regulations, no government enquiries in to disasters (or potential disasters) etc. etc.

How ridiculous.

That's a pretty weird idiology for football, and exactly what neutral to politics would be. Or is the line just drawn at inclusivity, and everything else political surrounding the sport is sound to carry on as is?
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Re the rest of your - post -

Clearly I'm talking about being neutral in regards to political propaganda which is what BLM kneeling and the rainbow stuff is - however you're being facetious and talking about every single thing that could be related to politics. Extremely pointless, childish and a complete waste of time.


You clearly were talking about propaganda and I replied 'I think football should be neutral. You're tripping yourself up here. I have pasted here the original passage -

Get Into Em said:
What would you point to as right-wing propoganda? A swastika on the scoreboard?

What type of stuff would you like to see that isn't currently raised as an issue?
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I think football should be neutral. Football is under the grip of woke capitalism. It's constant endless propaganda. It went from seemingly well meaning campaigns 20 odd years ago to full on socially far-left propaganda with the BLM kneeling and the endless rainbow campaigns.
Mallard said:
It’s a football top marra.
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And a badge, corner flag, laces and ball. An agenda pal!
 
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mrmarmalade said:
Re the rest of your - post -

Clearly I'm talking about being neutral in regards to political propaganda which is what BLM kneeling and the rainbow stuff is - however you're being facetious and talking about every single thing that could be related to politics. Extremely pointless, childish and a complete waste of time.


You clearly were talking about propaganda and I replied 'I think football should be neutral. You're tripping yourself up here. I have pasted here the original passage -


I think football should be neutral. Football is under the grip of woke capitalism. It's constant endless propaganda. It went from seemingly well meaning campaigns 20 odd years ago to full on socially far-left propaganda with the BLM kneeling and the endless rainbow campaigns.
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But it can't be neutral, literally cannot. It's impossible, as shown. That's why I asked the question:

"That's a pretty weird idiology for football, and exactly what neutral to politics would be. Or is the line just drawn at inclusivity, and everything else political surrounding the sport is sound to carry on as is?"
 
Get Into Em said:
But it can't be neutral, literally cannot. It's impossible, as shown. That's why I asked the question:

"That's a pretty weird idiology for football, and exactly what neutral to politics would be. Or is the line just drawn at inclusivity, and everything else political surrounding the sport is sound to carry on as is?"
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It could be close to neutral but instead the club have turned into a socially far-left political propaganda machine. That's why it's hard for me to continue to identify with a club that now represents woke global capitalism rather than Sunderland itself.
 
mrmarmalade said:
It could be close to neutral but instead the club have turned into a socially far-left political propaganda machine. That's why it's hard for me to continue to identify with a club that now represents woke global capitalism rather than Sunderland itself.
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I really hope your an old man mate !
 
haway the wizards said:
What happens in the stadium? What’s do ya want us as a dnvase to do to stop it? I’ve asked this a few times and haven’t been given an answer just deflecting questions and having a pop at me over something they think I am for daring to wanna go to the football to watch football rather than knowing what i really am like.

So go protest about it why bring it into football why do I have to watch sky SPORTS news or read a FOOTBALL message board and seee peoples views on it.

Opposition player falls over somoene shouts get up ya soft puff you would have them banned and arrested for discrimination serious question? If it’s yes then you’re an absolute wrongen if someone is doing monkey gestures n that then it’s clearly racist. By the way how many people do ya call out at the match for Thai behaviour. If it’s still such a massive problem?
How many people on here have called someone out for being racist or giving gay people abuse at the football this season? If so how many so we can all see if it’s as big an issue than what people are making out.
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Pretty simple really. I've said it already in fact. If someone's being a racist/bigot/homophobe - call them out on it.
Nobody likes confrontation really, but it's not right to let these morons sound off without being called into check.
I've done it on more than one occasion. More often than not it's lads trying to be Billy Big Bollocks in front of their mates. They soon calm down.

Hang on... Thai Behaviour?! :lol:
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
I would tell someone that it's 2025 and calling someone a puff isn't acceptable anymore. You're saying monkey gestures are clearly racist but calling someone a puff isn't homophobic? It's that dinosaur mentality that establishes a need for campaings such a this one. I haven't openly heard anyone around me use racist or homphobic language where I am in the ground. To be honest mate, the more you type the worse you're making yourself sound.
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It’s not meant in that way and you know it so why would you pull them up for it? So you haven’t heard anyone say anything like that and claim I’m the one making myself look bad? Ya couldn’t write it hahaha so you’re judging people for doing something that you haven’t witnessed happen. Shows what type of person you are to be honest
 
mrmarmalade said:
Re the rest of your - post -

Clearly I'm talking about being neutral in regards to political propaganda which is what BLM kneeling and the rainbow stuff is - however you're being facetious and talking about every single thing that could be related to politics. Extremely pointless, childish and a complete waste of time.


You clearly were talking about propaganda and I replied 'I think football should be neutral. You're tripping yourself up here. I have pasted here the original passage -


I think football should be neutral. Football is under the grip of woke capitalism. It's constant endless propaganda. It went from seemingly well meaning campaigns 20 odd years ago to full on socially far-left propaganda with the BLM kneeling and the endless rainbow campaigns.

And a badge, corner flag, laces and ball. An agenda pal!
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So poppy shirts, poppy flags, poppy displays in the ground are what exactly?
haway the wizards said:
It’s not meant in that way and you know it so why would you pull them up for it? So you haven’t heard anyone say anything like that and claim I’m the one making myself look bad? Ya couldn’t write it hahaha so you’re judging people for doing something that you haven’t witnessed happen. Shows what type of person you are to be honest
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If it's "not meant that way" then why say it?
 
Keawyeds said:
Pretty simple really. I've said it already in fact. If someone's being a racist/bigot/homophobe - call them out on it.
Nobody likes confrontation really, but it's not right to let these morons sound off without being called into check.
I've done it on more than one occasion. More often than not it's lads trying to be Billy Big Bollocks in front of their mates. They soon calm down.

Hang on... Thai Behaviour?! :lol:
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When was the last time you called someone out for it and what were their words taht you found offensive out of curiosity?
 
haway the wizards said:
It’s not meant in that way and you know it so why would you pull them up for it? So you haven’t heard anyone say anything like that and claim I’m the one making myself look bad? Ya couldn’t write it hahaha so you’re judging people for doing something that you haven’t witnessed happen. Shows what type of person you are to be honest
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You asked me what I’d do in that situation, if I witnessed it and I answered you. You’re showing yourself up. I couldn’t give a shite how something is meant, if I used a racist term and said ah sorry I didn’t mean it like that, is that okay? No. The word puff is a derogatory term used for a gay person and therefore using it insinuates that notion. There’s no inbetween.
 
oddbod said:
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How old are you mate ? i hope its over 60 as its your only saving grace!
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33. I don’t shout anything at the match other than pro sunderland stuff but people like you do my head in automatically judge people think ya can tell people how to behave and try to change the game we all grew up with. If you wanna talk about certain topics am sure there’s a pride forum this board is called pure football
 
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