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Carlisle United


Carlisle would love a Holloway, there’s barely anyone as experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to the football league and knows how to set a team up. What they’ve actually got is pretty much an experiment - not what you need when you’re fighting for your life.

Williamson’s first game was away to Swindon, a 2-0 in September win which put Carlisle ahead of them. Swindon got Holloway in soon after and after a shaky start have 7 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats in his last 12 - 3rd in the form table and on the verge of the top half. Carlisle are bottom.

Pretty sure Holloway has only had the luxury of bringing in 2 loan signings to turn things around, meanwhile Williamson has had over £1m to spend and has brought in 13 players now. A remarkable contrast and goes to show you can rely on as many stats and data as you want but you can’t beat an experienced old head who knows the game.

Glad you had a great day out Swindon on Tour, even if it was at our expense! See you in a couple of sesasons.
 
Sallycinamon said:
Carlisle would love a Holloway, there’s barely anyone as experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to the football league and knows how to set a team up. What they’ve actually got is pretty much an experiment - not what you need when you’re fighting for your life.

Williamson’s first game was away to Swindon, a 2-0 in September win which put Carlisle ahead of them. Swindon got Holloway in soon after and after a shaky start have 7 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats in his last 12 - 3rd in the form table and on the verge of the top half. Carlisle are bottom.

Pretty sure Holloway has only had the luxury of bringing in 2 loan signings to turn things around, meanwhile Williamson has had over £1m to spend and has brought in 13 players now. A remarkable contrast and goes to show you can rely on as many stats and data as you want but you can’t beat an experienced old head who knows the game.

Glad you had a great day out Swindon on Tour, even if it was at our expense! See you in a couple of sesasons.
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Need to act now and appoint another Manager.
Still think they can get out of this but listening to Williamson after the result yesterday sounded like Kennedy a broken Manager.

Would take your owners over our lot.
 
Sallycinamon said:
Carlisle would love a Holloway, there’s barely anyone as experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to the football league and knows how to set a team up. What they’ve actually got is pretty much an experiment - not what you need when you’re fighting for your life.

Pretty sure Holloway has only had the luxury of bringing in 2 loan signings to turn things around, meanwhile Williamson has had over £1m to spend and has brought in 13 players now. A remarkable contrast and goes to show you can rely on as many stats and data as you want but you can’t beat an experienced old head who knows the game.
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That goes a long way imo IH knows what works & has connections plus a knowledge of players. Sometimes a slight tinker with what you have beats the hell out of mass change.
 
Swindon On Tour said:
Need to act now and appoint another Manager.
Still think they can get out of this but listening to Williamson after the result yesterday sounded like Kennedy a broken Manager.

Would take your owners over our lot.
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I’m always willing to give managers a chance mate but the bloke needs to go now, he’s had enough time and seems to be going backwards!

The owners have been brilliant but their lack of knowledge and suitable advisors has become evident.
 
Swindon On Tour said:
Need to act now and appoint another Manager.
Still think they can get out of this but listening to Williamson after the result yesterday sounded like Kennedy a broken Manager.

Would take your owners over our lot.
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Bringing in that amount of players to save your bacon is a gamble, and this gamble looks to have failed broadly on a few aspects. MW was a broken manager/hc already then blasted his new budget and hoped something would come right without looking at the personalities of the players he's signing but that's only how I read into it from events. He'd have been better off taking a couple of experienced on-field team guiders [i.e. talkers] in games, but it seems he's going to do it his way which usually leads to dismissal. Listening to an MW post or pre match says he knows what's happening to him.

As for your owners, let's see what comes out of it in the next few weeks/months over IH and his probable request for £ backing to develop the squad. Then if nothing positive arises I'll say your concerns were well-founded. Obviously I knew nothing about the history so this will arguably open my eyes a bit further about your club/ownership.
Sallycinamon said:
I’m always willing to give managers a chance mate but the bloke needs to go now, he’s had enough time and seems to be going backwards!

The owners have been brilliant but their lack of knowledge and suitable advisors has become evident.
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No he's not going backwards he's going sideways; that's what the posession based football he plays amounts to. The owners must be able to see in games how easy it is for other teams to pick you off wich directly points to whoever is sending a team out to play like that.

Names in the frame as your next manager: Does Sheridan have a chance or is it more likely to be someone that adds a bit of steel?
 
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tynevalleyblackcat said:
As a Heed fan, I find this strange as MW was brilliant at Gateshead and had them playing some fantastic quick one touch football. Horses for courses maybe.
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I don't live far from The Heed's home pitch so I knew what some of the football played up there was like but for whatever reason it hasn't worked out at Carlisle after his stay at MK (where he was apparently under pressure so it was a surprise when Carlisle took him). I accept that whatever style you try to play depends on the players at your disposal so who knows?
 
70s traveller said:
Bringing in that amount of players to save your bacon is a gamble, and this gamble looks to have failed broadly on a few aspects. MW was a broken manager/hc already then blasted his new budget and hoped something would come right without looking at the personalities of the players he's signing but that's only how I read into it from events. He'd have been better off taking a couple of experienced on-field team guiders [i.e. talkers] in games, but it seems he's going to do it his way which usually leads to dismissal. Listening to an MW post or pre match says he knows what's happening to him.

As for your owners, let's see what comes out of it in the next few weeks/months over IH and his probable request for £ backing to develop the squad. Then if nothing positive arises I'll say your concerns were well-founded. Obviously I knew nothing about the history so this will arguably open my eyes a bit further about your club/ownership.

No he's not going backwards he's going sideways; that's what the posession based football he plays amounts to. The owners must be able to see in games how easy it is for other teams to pick you off wich directly points to whoever is sending a team out to play like that.

Names in the frame as your next manager: Does Sheridan have a chance or is it more likely to be someone that adds a bit of steel?
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Na, Sheridan’s ran his race as far as Carlisle’s concerned mate, left under a bit of a cloud last time amid claims of bullying and drinking. He certainly doesn’t suit the new owner’s clean-cut model either!

Can’t stand the bloke personally, but Ian Evatt’s name’s popped up quite a bit over the last few days. Karl Robinson and Derek Adams (another knob) have been mentioned aswell, even though they’re both in work at the minute. Jon Brady always did a decent job at Northampton and is available. Personally I’d love to see them offer Neil Warnock the job for 3 months and offer him a survival bonus, I bet he’d keep them up no problem with the players at his disposal. Would be cracking viewing aswell!
 
Sallycinamon said:
Na, Sheridan’s ran his race as far as Carlisle’s concerned mate, left under a bit of a cloud last time amid claims of bullying and drinking. He certainly doesn’t suit the new owner’s clean-cut model either!

Can’t stand the bloke personally, but Ian Evatt’s name’s popped up quite a bit over the last few days. Karl Robinson and Derek Adams (another knob) have been mentioned aswell, even though they’re both in work at the minute. Jon Brady always did a decent job at Northampton and is available. Personally I’d love to see them offer Neil Warnock the job for 3 months and offer him a survival bonus, I bet he’d keep them up no problem with the players at his disposal. Would be cracking viewing aswell!
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I got Sheri's name from your website. Evatt would be a decent bet but Warnock getting it would be absolutely superb. He's another bloke that knows the game (like Holloway), has stature & connections. Getting him on board would also have the media moving into Carlisle. I'm all for getting him in til the end of the season but Torquay might have different ideas although I'm sure he likes a challenge. Get him in to shake the playing rabble up if he'd accept what's offered. Time to put some money on the table to rescue the club.
 
seats seats seats said:
With the new barrow manager coming straight from the national league maybe they will pick up some quality in the summer from that league

Listened in on the radio and deserved a medal! How lumsdon puts up with that infantile in the commentary box i dont know
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Is it still that James Phillips?
 
Sallycinamon said:
Na, Sheridan’s ran his race as far as Carlisle’s concerned mate, left under a bit of a cloud last time amid claims of bullying and drinking. He certainly doesn’t suit the new owner’s clean-cut model either!

Can’t stand the bloke personally, but Ian Evatt’s name’s popped up quite a bit over the last few days. Karl Robinson and Derek Adams (another knob) have been mentioned aswell, even though they’re both in work at the minute. Jon Brady always did a decent job at Northampton and is available. Personally I’d love to see them offer Neil Warnock the job for 3 months and offer him a survival bonus, I bet he’d keep them up no problem with the players at his disposal. Would be cracking viewing aswell!
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Put Sheridactyl in and Conference football guaranteed.
An absolute arse of the highest order. A complete mess.
 
Walter H. White said:
Right after a January transfer window signing a bunch of players he wanted to suit his system.
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Which says a bit about his set ups, training & game instruction. He was allowed a roll of the dice with what he'd brought in & it went badly wrong. I suspect the squad are beginning to show signs of implosion.
The Situation said:
Williamson sacked.
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Next manager/hc very important because he'll have to work with what's been left there to get results.
 
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70s traveller said:
Which says a bit about his set ups, training & game instruction. He was allowed a roll of the dice with what he'd brought in & it went badly wrong. I suspect the squad are beginning to show signs of implosion.

Next manager/hc very important because he'll have to work with what's been left there to get results.
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I'm a bit gutted for him. He did a phenomenal job at Gateshead developing a style of play that allowed a team with no financial competitiveness to outplay teams week in, week out wit far better resources. The blueprint is still in place at Gateshead now as a result of him. I was convinced he would be a great manager in league football and he has been quite the opposite :lol:
 
rentaghost said:
I'm a bit gutted for him. He did a phenomenal job at Gateshead developing a style of play that allowed a team with no financial competitiveness to outplay teams week in, week out wit far better resources. The blueprint is still in place at Gateshead now as a result of him. I was convinced he would be a great manager in league football and he has been quite the opposite :lol:
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That's two clubs that have seen things they aren't happy with, maybe the level pressures have things to do with it but his aversion to change a style that doesn't work is a get-rid flashing sign to owners. When things are going well it isn't a problem but when they aren't the pressure mounts very quickly as the paying fans at Carlisle have demonstrated.

His post & pre match pressers haven't helped him either mind.

He's signed 12 new players & expected them to fit operfectly into a team pattern, deadline day sacking hasn't left the new man much chance of creating his own style.
 
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