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India v England 3rd T20i. 28th January 2025

Keith S30S said:
Curran has lost it with the ball, leaking runs badly.

Overton today, 3 wickets and only went for 6 an over from his 4.

That's what we need when Livingstone is really only a part timer bowler at top level.
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Yeah fair point, if Overton continues to perform with ball like he did today then fair enough.

But not sure he will and think Curran’s batting really come and a lot better than Overton
 

Voice of fair play said:
I would rather have Curran there as a better bat, he may hit not as big as sixes as Overton, but you don’t get any extra runs for how far you clear the boundary and Curran more than capable of clearing the boundary and will score more runs than Overton imo
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Not at 7 or 8 he won’t

That’s been proven over a long period of time, he can’t do it, Curran only ever scores runs in the top order, he can’t come in hit at 6s

It’s nothing to do with how far it clears the boundary, it’s about hitting 6s and from that position Overton is better
 
MustardAndOnions said:
Not at 7 or 8 he won’t

That’s been proven over a long period of time, he can’t do it, Curran only ever scores runs in the top order, he can’t come in hit at 6s

It’s nothing to do with how far it clears the boundary, it’s about hitting 6s and from that position Overton is better
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All about opinions mate, imo Curran would get picked over Overton for Surrey all the time.

His batting has come on loads, the only reason I mentioned how far it clears the boundary was because it was you who said Overton hits big sixes.

It’s irrelevant how big the sixes are and Curran would hit them more consistently than Overton and the fact he bats higher sometimes suggests that strongly.

Plus hitting fours consistently still excellent lower down the order

The major issue as @Keith S30S says is Overton a better bowling option?

But Curran definitely a better bat even at 7 imo
 
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Voice of fair play said:
All about opinions mate, imo Curran would get picked over Overton for Surrey all the time.

His batting has come on loads, the only reason I mentioned how far it clears the boundary was because it was you who said Overton hits big sixes.

It’s irrelevant how big the sixes are and Curran would hit them more consistently than Overton and the fact he bats higher sometimes suggests that strongly.

The major issue as @Keith S30S says is Overton a better bowling option?

But Curran definitely a better bat even at 7 imo
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Fun fact: Curran hits more sixes per innings than Overton in T20 cricket
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Fun fact: Curran hits more sixes per innings than Overton in T20 cricket
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Just think Curran would be more consistent and better batsman full stop.

He scores fast it’s a myth he doesn’t.

Overton no doubt capable of clearing the ropes and hits some massive sixes but if you only come off 1 in 20 against top class international bowlers would rather have a more reliable no 7.
 
Voice of fair play said:
All about opinions mate, imo Curran would get picked over Overton for Surrey all the time.

His batting has come on loads, the only reason I mentioned how far it clears the boundary was because it was you who said Overton hits big sixes.

It’s irrelevant how big the sixes are and Curran would hit them more consistently than Overton and the fact he bats higher sometimes suggests that strongly.

Plus hitting fours consistently still excellent lower down the order

The major issue as @Keith S30S says is Overton a better bowling option?

But Curran definitely a better bat even at 7 imo
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The first line kind of sums up where you are going wrong, and where England have gone wrong in the past

Its 2 completely different roles, Sam Curran bats in the top order in T20 for Surrey. He would never ever play 7, 8 which is where he would play for England if he was picked

Its a specialist role.
Voice of fair play said:
Because he is better bat
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Not at the death he isn't, his record proves it, its shocking,

He has played there for years for England and been awful at it.

Can only play for England if they are going to pick him in the top 5, which they arent
Voice of fair play said:
Just think Curran would be more consistent and better batsman full stop.

He scores fast it’s a myth he doesn’t.

Overton no doubt capable of clearing the ropes and hits some massive sixes but if you only come off 1 in 20 against top class international bowlers would rather have a more reliable no 7.
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Played 19 innings for England at 7 in T20 crickt, average of 13 and a strike rate of 114

11 innins at 6 average of 7.45 and a strike rate of 94.25

I hate to say I told you so but sorry you are just wrong on this point.
His record at 4 and 5 is good

If they want him there, pick him, but he cant come in at the end at finish games
 
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MustardAndOnions said:
The first line kind of sums up where you are going wrong, and where England have gone wrong in the past

Its 2 completely different roles, Sam Curran bats in the top order in T20 for Surrey. He would never ever play 7, 8 which is where he would play for England if he was picked

It’s a specialist role.
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The reason he plays up the order for Surrey is because he started down the order for them performed soo well so was moved up the order as a good bat.

He scores quick most if not all time and although I agree it’s a difficult position he could do it better than Overton.

I see Overton in International cricket as a 8 or 9 who can swing the bat at the end and come off the odd time, but he not a good enough bowler to obviously fill that role.

Livingstone at 6 so inconsistent that feel we need a better and more consistent player than Overton at 7.

And even if it not Curran we need better than Overton there

Just my opinion.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
The reason he plays up the order for Surrey is because he started down the order for them performed soo well so was moved up the order as a good bat.

He scores quick most if not all time and although I agree it’s a difficult position he could do it better than Overton.

I see Overton in International cricket as a 8 or 9 who can swing the bat at the end and come off the odd time, but he not a good enough bowler to obviously fill that role.

Livingstone at 6 so inconsistent that feel we need a better and more consistent player than Overton.

Just my opinion.
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Sorry like you are just utterly wrong on this, its not even about an opinion

Played 19 innings for England at 7 in T20 crickt, average of 13 and a strike rate of 114

11 innins at 6 average of 7.45 and a strike rate of 94.25

You are factually wrong, he can't bat 6 or 7 for England.
 
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