1st TEST :: New Zealand v England

[Voice of fair play]

You can't just enjoy an England win without having digs at other posters who have a differing opinion. Mental

Well mate, I don’t mind different constructive opinions.

Just not the piss taking and constant having a go at the team at every opportunity.
Apparently we are:

‘utterly unserious collection of individuals this current crop of England cricketers are’

And a ‘ bunch if hunch picks and white ball sloggers’

Just two of the beauties put out before this test match

 

[TheRey]

Well mate, I don’t mind different constructive opinions.

Just not the piss taking and constant having a go at the team at every opportunity.
Apparently we are:

‘utterly unserious collection of individuals this current crop of England cricketers are’

And a ‘ bunch if hunch picks and white ball sloggers’

Just two of the beauties put out before this test match

Because your attention span craves seeing the ball clear the ropes every few minutes, or you drift off. And that's OK, that's your preference.

Others are more nuanced, and prefer Test cricket played properly, and that's OK too.

Just enjoy the win without being a smug little fucker, eh?

 

[Voice of fair play]

Because your attention span craves seeing the ball clear the ropes every few minutes, or you drift off. And that's OK, that's your preference.

Others are more nuanced, and prefer Test cricket played properly, and that's OK too.

Just enjoy the win without being a smug little fucker, eh?

And I accept others points of view for many posters who do make good points about the need for more nuance at times which is fair enough it’s not them initial post was aimed at.


It posters like your good self who seem to take opportunity after opportunity to have a go at your national team from every angle possible.

Have a look at your comments towards England cricket teams over a sustained period and 95% of them are negative.

England football team as well come to that

 

[Salem Street South]

Anyway.

Good win and happy to see Carse do well, with decent performances from most, if not all.

Selection wise, decisions to make for the next game.

Who makes way for Robinson?

Does Potts get a run out?

And at what point do we officially rebrand England as the Durham Select International XI .

 

[Lumley End]

The answers to your questions are
No-one, he doesn’t come in.
No.
We should petition for an independence referendum.

 

[Salem Street South]

The answers to your questions are
No-one, he doesn’t come in.
No.
We should petition for an independence referendum.

Long way to go to get splinters in yer arse, in between carrying a few drinks

 

[Parkside]

As I have said numerous times to you mate, you make good points and there is a room for improvement in decisions in games.

Get that and more than accept that.

Post was aimed at the piss takers (not you)

There is very much a chance there will lose the next match as there play incredibly positively and ‘ risk losing to win’

I will take that, more than take that

Yes,you conceded that there is room for improvement which is the point the detractors are making so why are you critical of their viewpoint? Why label critics "pisstakers?". There is a fine line between "high risk" and "irresponsibility". All the concerns that I have read relate to the argument that I make that there are occasions when consolidation is the requirement rather than all out attack.
Why exactly do you find that so offensive?
As I pointed out the basis of this victory was consolidating rather than attacking early in our 1st innings.It's

 

[Voice of fair play]

Yes,you conceded that there is room for improvement which is the point the detractors are making so why are you critical of their viewpoint? Why label critics "pisstakers?". There is a fine line between "high risk" and "irresponsibility". All the concerns that I have read relate to the argument that I make that there are occasions when consolidation is the requirement rather than all out attack.
Why exactly do you find that so offensive?
As I pointed out the basis of this victory was consolidating rather than attacking early in our 1st innings.It's

I find comments such as ‘ we a team of hunch picks and white ball sloggers’

A piss take and lack of respect to this regime.

Not your more measured fair points which you have made which I am not critical of and respect.

Once again mate the post I originally made was towards the 2 or so pisstakers not the others who make fair points

 

[Parkside]

Long way to go to get splinters in yer arse, in between carrying a few drinks

Going to Summer from Winter to a top class hotel and getting well paid for it -what's not to like?

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Anyway.

Good win and happy to see Carse do well, with decent performances from most, if not all.

Selection wise, decisions to make for the next game.

Who makes way for Robinson?

Does Potts get a run out?

And at what point do we officially rebrand England as the Durham Select International XI .

I don’t think Robinson plays. The passport shenanigans may mean he never gets a test cap (assuming he would have played if he’d got a plane as soon as Cox got injured)

 

[Salem Street South]

Going to Summer from Winter to a top class hotel and getting well paid for it -what's not to like?

Well, there is that yeah. I’d be wanting to play myself like, particularly given the fact he’s been overlooked several times now, arguably unfairly, when he could reasonably have expected to be given a go.

Unfortunate for him I suppose that Pope found a bit of form this time round. And Bethell got runs.

I'm just keen to see how he would get on at that level I guess, although for Durham’s sake it possibly a good thing if he doesn’t stake a claim and they end up losing another player to the international set up.

I don’t think Robinson plays. The passport shenanigans may mean he never gets a test cap (assuming he would have played if he’d got a plane as soon as Cox got injured)

I think you’re probably right tbh.

 

[Parkside]

I find comments such as ‘ we a team of hunch picks and white ball sloggers’

A piss take and lack of respect to this regime.

Not your more measured fair points which you have made which I am not critical of and respect

Well there have been hunch picks-non more so than Bethell and there was surely justification for questioning it?
There are occasions imo when we've slogged irresponsibly when are more watchful approach would have been more suitable imo.
Justifiable criticism or questioning doesn't necessarily equate to a lack of respect.

 

[Safc1987]

Great win
Superb from carse
Gives them great option especially away from home
If only they hadn’t persevered with Anderson for two years two long helping him get personal accolades he’d of been in earlier
Atkinson as well same as carse great find

 

[Provider]

Great win for England especially on the back of New Zealand winning in India.

Hopefully brilliant for the confidence of Carse.

Good to see the minority of people taking the piss out of Englands approach quiet.

No doubt they will be back when Englands approach falls flat again wanting them to play ‘properly’ whatever that is supposed to mean.

As England will fall flat of their face playing this way on occasions but it gives you more chance of winning test matches and they do win a lot of test matches

In your eagerness to look down on others you've written something which doesn't really make a lot of sense.

We won that test match due to the bowlers and measured early batting in our first innings.

Yes, the first innings wasn't the out and out test match batting of old but it wasn't the reckless stuff that we've seen regularly from England recently.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

In your eagerness to look down on others you've written something which doesn't really make a lot of sense.

We won that test match due to the bowlers and measured early batting in our first innings.

Yes, the first innings wasn't the out and out test match batting of old but it wasn't the reckless stuff that we've seen regularly from England recently.

Stokes’ innings was the 3rd slowest score of 80 or more in the “Bazball” era

 

[Voice of fair play]

Well there have been hunch picks-non more so than Bethell and there was surely justification for questioning it?
There are occasions imo when we've slogged irresponsibly when are more watchful approach would have been more suitable imo.
Justifiable criticism or questioning doesn't necessarily equate to a lack of respect.

Do you think it’s fair and respectful to call us ‘ a team of white ball sloggers and hunch picks’?

I think they deserve a lot more respect than that while accepting room for improvement.

I was very critical in a post earlier on this thread of the selection of Bethell at 3 totally get that.

However would Carse have been selected of county form alone?

Some respect needs to be given to other possible hunch picks

 

[mackembhoy]

I don’t think Robinson plays. The passport shenanigans may mean he never gets a test cap (assuming he would have played if he’d got a plane as soon as Cox got injured)

That's a fair shout, his namesake turfed out for unprofessionalism too. Albeit he had a lot more chances.

But I don't really see the value of Pope potentially batting 6 again and keeping. A nice little innings for him for some confidence and him back at 3 without gloves is how we should go.

 

[Voice of fair play]

In your eagerness to look down on others you've written something which doesn't really make a lot of sense.

We won that test match due to the bowlers and measured early batting in our first innings.

Yes, the first innings wasn't the out and out test match batting of old but it wasn't the reckless stuff that we've seen regularly from England recently.

Is was a combination of both mate scoring at nearly 5 an over in the first innings.

Although sometimes I feel when there approach comes off apparently it’s more measured when it doesn’t it’s reckless where in reality it’s not that much diffrent.

Sometimes it will work sometimes wouldn’t but it works more often than not, suits the players style and a lot more successful than the previous approach with the last regime

 

[Aidan11]

Does anyone know what's up with Stokes?

He pulled up half way through an over which had to be completed by Atkinson. He was still in the field for the rest of the innings so hopefully nothing serious although he may not be able to bowl in the next test.

 

[Parkside]

Does anyone know what's up with Stokes?

He pulled up half way through an over which had to be completed by Atkinson. He was still in the field for the rest of the innings so hopefully nothing serious although he may not be able to bowl in the next test.

He's quoted as feeling a twinge in his back so came off bowling as a precaution. Says will be fit for T20 next test

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