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Nissan

ir35 said:
A lump sum of that size would cost the company £24 million plus, won’t happen.
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Already costing them another £7m a year with the NI increase too. Along with that lump sum that wipes out their profits for the year (according to last accounts submitted to companies house)
 

You do have to feel for car manufacturers. If the government set some criteria that simply isn’t achievable and then impose fines for not hitting those targets what else can they do. Government need to adjust expectations. Or rinse car manufacturers for money like they do everything and everyone else…
 
toonlad said:
You do have to feel for car manufacturers. If the government set some criteria that simply isn’t achievable and then impose fines for not hitting those targets what else can they do. Government need to adjust expectations. Or rinse car manufacturers for money like they do everything and everyone else…
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Exactly that mate . They've been told what to do by government. Tried there best without in meanwhile infrastructure been put in place. No tariffs on cheap imports . And it's currently not working for all the car manufacturers. The government has to and will step in and help
 
toonlad said:
You do have to feel for car manufacturers. If the government set some criteria that simply isn’t achievable and then impose fines for not hitting those targets what else can they do. Government need to adjust expectations. Or rinse car manufacturers for money like they do everything and everyone else…
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JD73 said:
Exactly that mate . They've been told what to do by government. Tried there best without in meanwhile infrastructure been put in place. No tariffs on cheap imports . And it's currently not working for all the car manufacturers. The government has to and will step in and help
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Which impacts employees of the companies and customers massively. Race to the bottom.
 
JD73 said:
Exactly that mate . They've been told what to do by government. Tried there best without in meanwhile infrastructure been put in place. No tariffs on cheap imports . And it's currently not working for all the car manufacturers. The government has to and will step in and help
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Not just a simple case of stepping in and handing a bag of cash over, there has to be a plan going forward from both the govt in respect to infrastructure and the car manufacturers deciding what they want to produce.
There will no doubt be a decent market for bog standard, small city cars, cheap to buy as well as the more expensive ones. As well as this they have to address the second hand market as well, if your paying a decent chunk for a new car but the resale value drops thru the floor after 3/4 years with concerns over battery life and how much it is to replace this will always give people food for thought when buying new or second hand
At the minute Nissan and others just aren’t selling enough so the same problems will exist next year and the next so the govt pot won’t be bottomless to bail them out, as they keep telling us with the cuts and tax rises.
Nissans problems globally go further, from what I understand the Chinese market for their wares has dropped off a cliff, similarly they could find tariffs being imposed on their USA sales as well.
Precarious times for all car manufacturers
 
Boz33 said:
Not just a simple case of stepping in and handing a bag of cash over, there has to be a plan going forward from both the govt in respect to infrastructure and the car manufacturers deciding what they want to produce.
There will no doubt be a decent market for bog standard, small city cars, cheap to buy as well as the more expensive ones. As well as this they have to address the second hand market as well, if your paying a decent chunk for a new car but the resale value drops thru the floor after 3/4 years with concerns over battery life and how much it is to replace this will always give people food for thought when buying new or second hand
At the minute Nissan and others just aren’t selling enough so the same problems will exist next year and the next so the govt pot won’t be bottomless to bail them out, as they keep telling us with the cuts and tax rises.
Nissans problems globally go further, from what I understand the Chinese market for their wares has dropped off a cliff, similarly they could find tariffs being imposed on their USA sales as well.
Precarious times for all car manufacturers
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Great Post
But
Like u say
All Car Manufacturers
Cars will always be a necessity in all walks of life . There's going to be a global shift in everything over coming years
Infrastructure must be improved massively with investment from governments
And no doubt talks will continue with governments and car manufacturers over this period
Rather than glass half empty
I'm taking the glass half full optimistic view that everything will work out in the end mate 👍
 
JD73 said:
Great Post
But
Like u say
All Car Manufacturers
Cars will always be a necessity in all walks of life . There's going to be a global shift in everything over coming years
Infrastructure must be improved massively with investment from governments
And no doubt talks will continue with governments and car manufacturers over this period
Rather than glass half empty
I'm taking the glass half full optimistic view that everything will work out in the end mate 👍
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The problem is when that mass changeover comes… it’ll come but govts and companies have to get things lined up not just come out with pronouncements and slogans.
Govts have left manufacturers with an impossible choice, adopt early and accept the pain/ losses/ redundancy’s in the short to medium term of govts be more flexible
 
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Boz33 said:
The problem is when that mass changeover comes… it’ll come but govts and companies have to get things lined up not just come out with pronouncements and slogans.
Govts have left manufacturers with an impossible choice, adopt early and accept the pain/ losses/ redundancy’s in the short to medium term of govts be more flexible
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Votes also helps governments stay in power
And the unions the backbone of the Labour Party. The Labour Party will help 100%"
 
JD73 said:
Votes also helps governments stay in power
And the unions the backbone of the Labour Party. The Labour Party will help 100%"
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All depends how much they can help, there's not just Nissan, no doubt Toyota, Honda, vauxhall, BMW and all the rest will want similar treatment for any subsidies given.
Personally I'd be reining back on overseas spending like the climate help to allow the country to support its own industries as we head into the green era, if there's no money in the kitty as they keep banging on about time to trim what we send overseas and take care of ourselves first
Pointless helping the car industry if firstly they can't shift them, and secondly the infrastructure is years behind where it needs to be
 
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