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SOL expansion
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Football Dinosaur
Striker
Tidied
Rivet Catcher
Midfield
Hospitality entertainment and top 6 will lead to expansion.
Secret Visage
Striker
Plans are already afoot before top 6.
JackL
Midfield
Villa's top tier was empty when they were in the championship. Now they're established in the prem they're looking to extend as they're now in the champions league. Liverpool have extended because they've been selling out for years. Yet for some reason some on here think Sunderland need to futureproof by adding another 10-15k on top of the 5-10k that doesn't sell out. It's got to happen first before we extend, it's really not that difficult to comprehend
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Gyanyem
Full Back
Lifes too short for negativity.
Weststand
Central Defender
If you look more closely at Villas expansion plans they were planned and costed around 3 years ago (shortly after promotion), and their plans are exactly whats been mentioned that sunderland should be doing on here. There vision is actually noted as been 'more than a football stadium' and is all about been a community hub, a corporate arena, an entertainment venue and a catalyst for regeneration. Very much more than a football stadium in every aspect of the plans.
This is why Sunderland should extend the corporate facilities as well as the the seating to very much future proof every aspect of the stadium to get up to touching distance with the elite if thats where we want to be. Other than that we should do nothing and stand still.....lets have some ambition and at least try and get where we think we should be.
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oddbod
Striker
logic bypass mate!.. if they are going to spend millions on structural change increasing corporate offerings it makes financial and logical sense to add extra seats even if its only utilised for concerts or a small number of games......it would be madness not to as the seats would be a small part of the overall cost.I take it you suffer from the empty seat phobia like many on here?
joop
Striker
They had major problems with the roof leaking a year or so ago. Mind, they sorted it sharpish with a full roof refurbishment.
Villa's problem is their new north stand requires the demolition of the existing north stand first which reduces capacity during the build. I think this is why they've not progressed it during the last three years.
We on the other hand can extend without reducing capacity too much during the build.
Maybe Villa should have anticipated selling out and rebuilt their ground when they had the spare capacity to do so ?
joop
Striker
Yeah, their delay is certainly going to cause them issues for the expansion but when they were in the championship, they were on a real financial knife edge. The investment to expand them could have been seriously problematic.
The inland revenue were about to issue a court order, but they were taken over days before it was issued.
LostTheDressingRoom
Central Defender
The stadium exterior looks tired, it needs CAPEX investment
Northumberland Rocks
Striker
Thanks to Sir Bobs forward planning SAFC, imho, is uniquely placed in this country to expand relatively easily and cheaply,
As I have said with the developments around the SOL (which are great) we have to futureprof the stadium particularly the south stand. With the new bridge a creative extension would be fantastic addition. Let’s build it and increase even more our excellent ticketing options for kids.
Future proofing the stadium and building our fan base just seems the right thing to do if the money can be found.
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cornish cat
Midfield
If anyone needs another reason to wonder why SAFC are special:
It's worth noting that Sunderland and County Durham have relatively low population increases over the last 20 years compared to cities and most big towns around the country. Much is made of Villa on this thread - with Birmingham alone increasing in population by around 110,000 in the last 10 years. The West Midlands has just under 3 million people in it, and the area has increased at over 6% over the last 10 years.
Our club has done amazing in recruiting fans from the County, from afar, and from Sunderland with comparatively low population growth. We have to work harder at increasing our attendance than most other big clubs (as many are from large population-dense places with vastly beneficial population increases).
My conclusion: Many big clubs have more fans over the last 20 years because there ARE more fans in those areas. Sunderland also has more fans, but without the same population growth.
Therefore Sunderland are the dog's bollocks.
It's worth noting that Sunderland and County Durham have relatively low population increases over the last 20 years compared to cities and most big towns around the country. Much is made of Villa on this thread - with Birmingham alone increasing in population by around 110,000 in the last 10 years. The West Midlands has just under 3 million people in it, and the area has increased at over 6% over the last 10 years.
Our club has done amazing in recruiting fans from the County, from afar, and from Sunderland with comparatively low population growth. We have to work harder at increasing our attendance than most other big clubs (as many are from large population-dense places with vastly beneficial population increases).
My conclusion: Many big clubs have more fans over the last 20 years because there ARE more fans in those areas. Sunderland also has more fans, but without the same population growth.
Therefore Sunderland are the dog's bollocks.
I am getting g that vibe. Hope they make the outside all glass n that. Bring on the 60 thousand.
It would probably be loans. Like that’s how expansions and new grounds work.
49k isn’t big enough for SAFC established and competing in the top flight.
Wrenthorpe Mackem
Striker
Villa generally been far more successful than us and competing in top half of premier league. More likelihood of generating the demand for extra seats and corporate facilities?
Personally, I'd like to see money sunk into improvement on the concourse rather than any big expansion.
Think it's inevitable considering hospitality was sold out last year that they want to increase capacity there.
What I would say is I think our support has actually improved since we were last in the Premier League. To average over 40k last season in the championship when we were so poor is outstanding.
If we continue how we're going I think we'll end up 45k+ every home game.
If they were to expand I'd prefer what people have mentioned. Single tiered South stand terrace. Id try and do some sort of 2 tiered box setup on the east stand too.
Think it's inevitable considering hospitality was sold out last year that they want to increase capacity there.
What I would say is I think our support has actually improved since we were last in the Premier League. To average over 40k last season in the championship when we were so poor is outstanding.
If we continue how we're going I think we'll end up 45k+ every home game.
If they were to expand I'd prefer what people have mentioned. Single tiered South stand terrace. Id try and do some sort of 2 tiered box setup on the east stand too.
