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Jack Clarke


I know, no disputing that. But we've signed a 29 year old from Preston, a backup winger from Leeds who'd been on loan at Blackpool and Sheffield United and 2nd and 3rd choice keepers from Coventry and Stoke. None of those should inhibit us from signing a striker. It's not like back in the day when we'd sign someone like Zenden or Larsson on a free and accept we'd be paying a higher wage and hefty signing on fee.

Appreciate the Ballard and Jobe renewals too but we've also let players go - Embleton, Evans, Dack, Pritchard in January etc which offset much of those.
Fair point - it's disappointing news for sure but can only hope the reinvestment this time around is more effective
 
We'll be lucky if they reinvest even half of the money. They will take their huge profit and buy more youngsters who are nowhere near as good as him. This sale ensures we remain in the championship for at least another season as they have proven they cannot replace goals lost.

I am not here to support the owners bank balance and watch us meander around the championship for season after season. I am not here to watch our best players be sold the moment we get an offer. I'll just watch from home instead and they'll get none of my monies.

This is the worst period in our history and shows no sign of ending. I have said before these owners are not focused on promotion, they just want to make profits from transfers and put no money of their own in. If we get promoted it will be by chance and even then we'll come straight back down, because these owners will not buy experienced players, they'll pocket most of the promotion money and just buy a higher calibre of prospect.

I look at other clubs with ambitious owners who are historically smaller than us and it's just crap. Ipswich who came up after us are now worth at least 5x what we are because they spent money when they got a sniff of promotion, our owners did the opposite in the playoff season and decimated the team resulting in a failed next season.

It's just no fun anymore this club.
 
We haven’t got £20m, the fee is £15m plus add ons which no doubt will be based in the main on them staying up
Partly, but it won’t be all of the £5m. It’ll likely be appearances, survival and probably sell on if they get relegated and sell him. The final figure will be closer to £20m than £15m I’d happily estimate.
 
Tbh I find this apparent attitude of promoted clubs a miserable depressing one. My hope is we would go up with players we think are PL players and stay there. I don’t want to be a yo yo shite club like Sheff Utd, Burnley, Watford and Norwich.
I agree but I don’t blame the clubs tbh. You either go for bust and take a massive risk or you try to be sensible and scrape by to stay up. You can’t even really take the financial risk anymore really due to FFP.
 
Feel good factor sky high after a perfect start. New gaffer in. Strikers seemingly on their way. A play off place looking likely.

Then only Sunderland go and sell their best and top scoring player for £15m and a bad of wotsits.

Two years running our best player has been sold.
And replaced with…

Fuck all.
 
I’d have held out for £25m including the desperation tax. But I think £20m is fair tbh. Certainly not “low”.
Imo he’s too one footed and not the quickest to be a £30m plus player but we will soon see. Good opportunity for him and a good fee for us.

Will we get or when do we get 20m though? Next year, the year after? When Ipswich stay up? Then there's the sell on.

Looks like pressure has built, club have shit theirselves incase they get into another Stewart situation and given the lack of funds provided for recruitment they've given in.

And here we go with a bunch of randoms from abroad - what's not to like?
 
Feel good factor sky high after a perfect start. New gaffer in. Strikers seemingly on their way. A play off place looking likely.

Then only Sunderland go and sell their best and top scoring player for £15m and a bad of wotsits.

Two years running our best player has been sold.
It’s a disgrace and I’m convinced the ownership laugh at the supporters, much as the way Freddie Shepard did to the mags in 1998 and was recorded doing so.
 
That isn’t how transfer fees work, in fairness.

I think £20m is at least £5m short of being palatable but it isn’t my money and it’s not likely I’d expect Speakman to spend it wisely anyway.
I might be completely thick, but do transfer fees not also take into account the wages a player is on, which can be seen to boost their value?

E.g. you could have an absolute wonderkid generational talent playing for a League One / bottom of Champo team, but since they're earning peanuts that drags their value down, compared to a "worse" player from a top end championship / bottom PL team who earns significantly more and is therefore higher value? I'm talking with Footy Manager in mind so this is probably complete bollocks like
 
It isn't 18 :lol: at most its 15, 25% of 20 million is 5, 20-5=15 million and that is if all the sell on clauses are met.
I was talking about if the fee was 25 which everyone keeps throwing round. We’d come around 18.75 million

If all add ons are met we’ll get 15. Aswell as have a nice hefty sell on if they sell him in future probably putting us around the 20 million mark. But let’s say all add ons are met but he’s not sold we’ve lost out on 3 million
 
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