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Helmets

Jasper said:
My eldest is a keeper and he keeps saying he can't wait to be old enough not to wear one to pace. I've told him over my dead body.
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i take it he means just for keeping and not batting, thats a bit of a grey area isnt it, the rules here say "when Standing up to the stumps" i thought it was for any bowling to be honest, but i got hit more keeping than i ever did batting, i blame dodgy pitches not bad keeping

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I find it amusing in our dressing room when it’s used as some kind of machismo thing. The two in our club that don’t wear a helmet are undoubtedly the two that have the least to protect up there, as they’re often reminded 🧠 😁
 
Sillypoint said:
That’s kind of what I’m getting at really. There’s blokes now must be in their 30’s who’ve had to wear one mandatory all the way through junior cricket, then decide nah not for me, and it must come from seeing the older blokes not wear them if that’s all you’ve know to bat from being a kid

You can get a masuri one now for about £50 maybe cheaper
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My young 'un is 40 this year. Hes had to wear one from 15, always does and wears one keeping wicket if hes stood up. I find very few in the Yorkshire Prem dont wear them to seam. A few take them off for spin each end but not that many .
Best thing that ever happened helmets for juniors , my kids game came on leaps and bounds once they felt protected staying in line
Jasper said:
My eldest is a keeper and he keeps saying he can't wait to be old enough not to wear one to pace. I've told him over my dead body.
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he'll be fine standing back but if he stands up to quicks like mine does he'd better have one on
 
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Sillypoint said:
i take it he means just for keeping and not batting, thats a bit of a grey area isnt it, the rules here say "when Standing up to the stumps" i thought it was for any bowling to be honest, but i got hit more keeping than i ever did batting, i blame dodgy pitches not bad keeping

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Yeah for his keeping.

Even if he's standing back, you get the odd dodgy bounce from attempted run outs
 
3.142 said:
That's similar to the idea that cyclists also shouldn't wear helmets as it gives them a false sense of security and reduces their perception of danger and can result in more accidents.
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I'm not sure if this is a dig or not?

I'm 100% for kids wearing helmets - I simply pointed out that in the five or six years I was a junior manager/coach I saw a lot more kids hit on the head because they played at deliveries they should have got out of the way of. The helmet being a major factor as they felt it would protect them whatever happened. After any such incidents happened I would always make a point of telling them to practice avoiding the short ball unless they were completely sure they could play it comfortably.

The helmet should never become an excuse for bad technique.
 
Jap Stammer said:
I'm not sure if this is a dig or not?

I'm 100% for kids wearing helmets - I simply pointed out that in the five or six years I was a junior manager/coach I saw a lot more kids hit on the head because they played at deliveries they should have got out of the way of. The helmet being a major factor as they felt it would protect them whatever happened. After any such incidents happened I would always make a point of telling them to practice avoiding the short ball unless they were completely sure they could play it comfortably.

The helmet should never become an excuse for bad technique.
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Not a dig, just a comment on the human psyche. Really everyone should appreciate the danger whether helmeted or not, not wait until hitt to appreciate. Not least as the ball can and does sometimes miss the helmet/grille and cause serious damage.
 
Yeah I used to be part of the just let people do what they want brigade, and I always took mine off as soon as any quicks were off. May be an age thing but I'm now very much in the helmets should be mandatory camp. I feel I played quick bowling very well and never got genuinely done by a short ball, but twice was done off length straight in the side of the temple, and without a helmet I shudder to think what could have happened.

There will always be some old fellas say its my choice, i'm not used to it blah blah blah, but get a winter in the nets with one on and its fine. Also think about the poor buggers who have to scrape you up after some Antiguan quickie wipes you out, just because your ego tells you not to bother with one.


Keeping is a funny one too. My old man stood up to the stumps for many years and had a few nasty facial injuries, mainly from the ball or bail flying up off the stumps when someone was bowled. Certainly agree that when standing up it should be mandatory. Standing back do whatever you fancy though, its no different to being in the slips.
 
Jasper said:
Yeah for his keeping.

Even if he's standing back, you get the odd dodgy bounce from attempted run outs
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He should be able to manage that with a big pair of gloves on if his reactions are keeper standard. Remember there was one older keeper in prem 2's used to wear one standing back but i think hed had a previous head injury
 
Sillypoint said:
i mean that could be a bowler or any fielder at the other end
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Exactly . The keeper will get more of it on average but thats what hes supposed to be good at and practices , plus he's got the bit of extra help with the big mitts and pads. if youre worried about the odd dodgy return you shouldnt be there .
be bowlers in helmets next for the odd one thats brayed back straight 😄
 
I was never made to wear one as a junior(44 now) and didn’t bother until I top edged one into my face a few years back. Caught me right one the eyebrow and could have lost an eye if I hadn’t turned my head as much as I did.

Since wearing a helmet I’ve found it helps me focus much more and having wore one now for the last 10 years I doubt I’ll go back.

Regarding rules I think adults be made aware of the consequences but let them make their own minds up. At a guess older guys won’t wear them but juniors whove grown up wearing them will continue to do so.
 
SAFC2403 said:
At a guess older guys won’t wear them but juniors whove grown up wearing them will continue to do so.
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thats been my worry though, just noticed a very odd few crept in who havnt... Personally i think a league like the Hetton Lyons sundays it should be mandatory across the board, or again if you were born after a certain point you cant not wear one end of discussion and phase it out totally
 
Sillypoint said:
thats been my worry though, just noticed a very odd few crept in who havnt... Personally i think a league like the Hetton Lyons sundays it should be mandatory across the board, or again if you were born after a certain point you cant not wear one end of discussion and phase it out totally
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If you’ve never worn one and are then told you MUST then it’s a bit iffy imo.

Minimum of £70 for a helmet which also might put some off.
 
Carteron said:
I remember a team mate taking one into the temple from Whitmore Quinn. Ambulance on the field jobby and he was lucky to survive it
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He hit me on the elbow, in front of my nose. I should have ducked. He was quick, but predictable - everything was short. I didn't last too long but our New Zealand amateur loved it. Scored a ton, mainly with pulls and hooks.

Got hit over the heart by Ken Macloud (Shields pro) and actually saw stars. Had to pour a pint of water over my head to wake up enough to continue. Was wearing a helmet that day, but not against Quinn at Philly. Learned that lesson pretty quick.
 
I played as a keeper at a very low standard. Took a few to the head standing up but also a top edge straight into the end of the nose
Seems ridiculous now that what I was doing 25 years ago is now classed as too dangerous for top level professionals
I must have been mad. I still laugh about turning up at Dryburn in cricket whites covered in blood with a nose spread across my face being asked by the receptionist what I had done
 
oncefromdurham said:
I played as a keeper at a very low standard. Took a few to the head standing up but also a top edge straight into the end of the nose
Seems ridiculous now that what I was doing 25 years ago is now classed as too dangerous for top level professionals
I must have been mad. I still laugh about turning up at Dryburn in cricket whites covered in blood with a nose spread across my face being asked by the receptionist what I had done
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Once had to go to Sunderland A&E after I popped a couple of knuckles fielding - hand swelled up like a pudding.

Got in to see a doctor who, despite me sitting there in full whites, refused to believe that I had done it playing cricket and insisted that I must have been fighting to sustain such an injury.

Like I had been so worried about being accused of fighting that I'd changed into full cricket gear before turning up at A&E.
 
took one in the lip from a one that didnt carry and bobbled in front of me, must have had about 6 blackcurrant ice lollies we had in the freezer in the tea room to keep the swelling down, thought a few cool pints would help too, went home later with a fish supper, proceeded to spew bright purple fish and chips up on me mothers cream carpet, she went ballistic, thought i must have been scrapping too
 
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