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The Hundred 2024

Voice of fair play said:
FFS man, you can get injured for your hamstring sprinting next to your home, sprinting after your dog, or any sporting field in any sport.

I am not defending the tournament, I am saying injuring a hamstring has nothing to do with this tournament

This whole line of discussion blaming a particular tournament for an injury any injury is beyond farcical I am out of this debate.

I normally like debating this one is simply stupid!!


So not saying anymore as it’s just ridiculous
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STILL not getting it :lol:
Voice of fair play said:
I have heard Harry Brook has fell down the stairs tonight at the ground banged his knee and Phil Salt has slipped on his way home at a service station both out for 6 weeks.

It’s all the 100’s fault if they were not playing in the 100 they would have not travelled and iit would not have happened 😀😀😀😀😀
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The quadrupling down is really quite spectacular :lol:
 
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Sillypoint said:
What’s that? Given the counties a cash injection, if you listen to Bostocks interview he’s said without it the counties would be in huge trouble
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Reportedly the host counties receive 80% of the broadcast, ticket and sponsorship revenue.

Imagine if the vehicle for all that cash injection was the T20 Blast and the 18 counties, not the richest eight in a shitty made up format they've tried and failed to sell anywhere else.
 
Fleagle said:
Where does this “mandated” thing come from? it seems quite obvious to me that the centrally contracted players get to pick and choose with this tournament just as they do all the other domestic ones. Stokes has swerved it in previous years, and some others are giving it a miss this time. It’s a pity he didn’t swerve at this time as it happens, but then they’re perfectly capable of injuring themselves playing golf anyway.
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Centrally contracted players don't pick and choose which games they play in,either domestic or the Hundred. ECB mandate which they're available for.
Nay be some pre-contract discussion,but ECB,as their employer, rule on their availability.
YOU will testify to the golf injury risk :(
Should be YJB
 
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Anyone got figures how much the hundred is generating for the ECB? Or in reality what the losses are costing the ECB other than the death of county cricket.
 
Parkside said:
Centrally contracted players don't pick and choose which games they play in,either domestic or the Hundred. ECB mandate which they're available for.
Nay be some pre-contract discussion,but ECB,as their employer, rule on their availability.
YOU will testify to the golf injury risk :(
Should be YJB
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They admitted that the players have an essentially decisive say along with the coach in regard to domestic appearances the end of the season before last when there was some very public discussion over the visibly different treatment of Broad and Anderson. But we knew it all along anyway. The players aren’t schoolboys they’re grown men.

I have no problem by the way in centrally contracted players wanting to put England first or in the ECB expecting them to do so. It’s what they obviously should do. I have a problem with the idea that they don’t want to put England first but some nasty man at the ECB is making them do so. It’s an insult to their professionalism and to my intelligence.
 
Tuesday 13th August
Women 3pm
Northern Superchargers Women v London Spirit Women
Headingley, Leeds
Men 6.30pm
Northern Superchargers Men v London Spirit Men
Headingley, Leeds
 
Can someone who follows this explain what Leeds need to do today to qualify for the next stage? Just trying to establish whether any of their Durham players might then be available for the One Day Cup?
 
mosi said:
Can someone who follows this explain what Leeds need to do today to qualify for the next stage? Just trying to establish whether any of their Durham players might then be available for the One Day Cup?
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If they lose they are out, if they win then they need either the Birmingham or Hampshire team to lose their final games. If all 3 teams win their final games then Leeds are out.
 
mosi said:
Can someone who follows this explain what Leeds need to do today to qualify for the next stage? Just trying to establish whether any of their Durham players might then be available for the One Day Cup?
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They need to win today, or they are out

If they do win then gotta wait until Wednesday and Thursday's games to see if they qualify
 
Fleagle said:
They admitted that the players have an essentially decisive say along with the coach in regard to domestic appearances the end of the season before last when there was some very public discussion over the visibly different treatment of Broad and Anderson. But we knew it all along anyway. The players aren’t schoolboys they’re grown men.

I have no problem by the way in centrally contracted players wanting to put England first or in the ECB expecting them to do so. It’s what they obviously should do. I have a problem with the idea that they don’t want to put England first but some nasty man at the ECB is making them do so. It’s an insult to their professionalism and to my intelligence.
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Simon Heifer quite stinging in his Telegraph article​

Ben Stokes injuring himself in meaningless Hundred is one of English cricket’s dumbest moments​

England have lost a superb batsman, a penetrating bowler and an adventurous captain for first Test because of an imbecilic, parochial format
"Imbecilic,parochial format" best and most apt description yet of the Hundred imo.
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has been dire for English cricket since it began three years ago. You can’t play high-quality, serious (i.e. first-class) matches at the same time that your best cricketers are cavorting in Mickey Mouse matches for the entertainment of nine-year olds. And now we know there is an even worse cost.
 
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Parkside said:

Simon Heifer quite stinging in his Telegraph article​

Ben Stokes injuring himself in meaningless Hundred is one of English cricket’s dumbest moments​

England have lost a superb batsman, a penetrating bowler and an adventurous captain for first Test because of an imbecilic, parochial format
"Imbecilic,parochial format" best and most apt description yet of the Hundred imo.
Heifer adds
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has been dire for English cricket since it began three years ago. You can’t play high-quality, serious (i.e. first-class) matches at the same time that your best cricketers are cavorting in Mickey Mouse matches for the entertainment of nine-year olds. And now we know there is an even worse cost.
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Scyld Berry with a similarly scathing and excellent article:

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Why the Hundred remains so divisive​

ECB’s most controversial competition has been undermined by a lack of overseas stars in men’s tournament and shortage of thrilling finishes​


Never in the history of cricket – or at least since round-arm bowling was legalised in the 1830s to the despair of under-arm fans – has any innovation
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The Men’s Hundred, that is. The Women’s Hundred is widely agreed to be the best thing to have happened to female cricket in the UK since bread was sliced. It has enabled the women’s game to become a profession; young, fresh and vigorous, it has attracted family audiences. The women’s game was not associated with one particular format, so the page was blank when the Hundred was devised; and the best female cricketers from around the world are competing.

The Men’s Hundred seems to be either loved or loathed. It attracts new audiences and . This divisiveness – since its inception in 2021 – is not going away. So far the Men’s Hundred has eluded the British genius for compromise.

The when batting in the Hundred for Northern Superchargers will only polarise positions further. It is surprising that he had not ruptured himself before, when bowling in the drizzle at Cardiff against Welsh Fire in front of perhaps 200 spectators.
The game had been reduced to 25 balls per side, believed to be the shortest game of professional cricket ever: should sacrifice himself, to buy into the Hundred?

It should be pointed out, to Hundred loathers, that the scoring system can be simpler than what appears on our screens. A scoreboard on the ground will say the target is “97 off 55 balls”. It would take a professor of mathematics AND semiotics to ignore the flashing “Oh yeah!” and work out the score on television.

There are regional differences too. Franchises based at the seven Test grounds have attracted a core of supporters. Welsh Fire has always been the runt of the litter, poorly conceived. There is neither Welshness – Glamorgan’s stroke-player Kiran Carlson has been ignored – nor fieriness, now Jonny Bairstow has mellowed; they lack left-handed batsmen and finger-spinners. But people in Cardiff have never flocked to Sophia Gardens, and the very name deters cricket supporters in England’s south-west.

Lack of overseas stars​


The belated arrival of some England Test players – Stokes and Harry Brook at Northern Superchargers, Joe Root at Trent Rockets – has gone some way to compensate for the scarcity of overseas stars. When Washington Freedom won the new American franchise competition, they had more stars than the whole of the Men’s Hundred in Travis Head, Steve Smith, Rachin Ravindra, Glenn Maxwell and Marco Jansen. This Hundred has seen young Lancashire players, who a month or so ago could not get into their county team for the T20 Vitality Blast.

And there have been so many low-scoring non-thrillers. Supporters were led to believe in big hitting, high scoring and plenty of spin-bowling. Instead this year’s competition has seen grassy pitches, the ball swinging and batsmen unable to score a run a ball. Tim Southee has just taken five wickets for 11 runs. Four teams have been bowled out for less than 100. When the concept was devised, it was probably not with a first innings target of 100 in mind.

But there are surely other, deeper, causes of the traditional supporter’s dissatisfaction with the Hundred. Take James Vince, by far the leading run-scorer this season. He hit an unbeaten 73 off 50 balls for Southern Brave against Welsh Fire, in a game when nobody else passed 21, but it was exactly that: power-hitting, with all 10 of his boundaries struck legside, none of his cover-driving that can be so splendid.

Competition leaves little room for creativity​


The shorter the format, the less scope for batsmanship. In T20, opening batsmen are allowed to leave one ball if not two; in the difference between 100 and 120 balls a batsman’s character has a little more space to reveal itself. In the T20 World Cup final, player-of-the-match Virat Kohli’s 76 had three distinct phases: his early drives that cashed in on Jansen’s nervousness, the middle period when he could only score singles and his face mirrored his frustration, then late acceleration.

In the Hundred a batsman, like Vince, has to hit from the start and carry on hitting, or failing that nudge the ball for a single, leaving no room for individual expression. It is worthy of note that we see batting as a creative act: you make a score or build an innings, and the traditional supporter may loathe the Hundred, in part, because its brevity minimises the scope for this creativity.

As divisive as anything is the five-ball set. The Hundred has tried to reinvent the wheel of cricket, which is the six-ball over, and has not replaced it with anything better. Being shorter, the set gives a Hundred game a jerkier rhythm. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and it is telling this format has no imitators.

Tournament overshadows cricket season​


The Hundred causes resentment too for taking over what used to be the prime time of the cricket season, when Test matches used to be played, and the County Championship would approach its climax and limited-overs competitions would reach their knock-out stages.

It can be blamed, and should be blamed, for England’s failure to retain the 50-over World Cup: as Brook said, preparing in the Hundred was no way to learn how to bat in the 50-over format. It is some innovation which defies the British capacity for compromise.
 
Urgh looks like the Leeds team will qualify.

Jammy bastards with their rained off game.

Terrible news for Durham. Fuck off Marcus North
 
Put the 100 on - switched off after 2 minutes. Since when did any sportsman ever get interviewed whilst competing in a match ?
 
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