Aidan11
Striker
Doesn't surprise me.
Selling the franchises is the last throw of the dice. That is not going to work either .
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Car Crash 16.4…
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Selling the franchises is the last throw of the dice. That is not going to work either .
Struts
Winger
I can’t believe that they think they’re going to get more for 49% of one team than most teams in the Championship would get for a business that comes with; a stadium, a team of players, an academy & much more lucrative sponsorship deals. Not to mention the new TV deal that’s coming in this season.
Probably didn’t want to play - as others have said I wouldn’t be surprised if it was part of his central contract.
Knowing Stokesy he’d have probably rather been at Radlett with his coloured shirt on.
Brilliant isn’t it
Seriously though, this is the bit I can’t get my head round regarding all this foreign investment; people/entities who are that rich must surely have some process in place which means they perform some sort of due diligence on all of this?
Cause if they do, especially any Indians that may be interested, they must see that it just isn’t profitable or viable in the slightest in the long term. Because irrespective of how much FTECB throw at it to bribe them, if no fucker is interested in going or watching on telly - which clearly they aren’t now - it’s doomed to failure. It’s already hemorrhaging money. And it’s already losing superstar players to other tournaments around the world because even they know it’s bollocks.
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Discopants91
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Shit scores are the balls fault.
Rufus T Firefly
Central Defender
Exactly. T20 spread round the world in no time 20 years ago.
Aidan11
Striker
Darlo1973
Striker
If anything T10 is the format which is growing the quickest especially at Associate member level
Discopants91
Striker
Exactly that.
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and it is telling this format has no imitators.”
Scyld Berry
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Why the Hundred remains so divisive
ECB’s most controversial competition has been undermined by a lack of overseas stars in men’s tournament and shortage of thrilling finishes
Never in the history of cricket – or at least since round-arm bowling was legalised in the 1830s to the despair of under-arm fans – has any innovation
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.The Men’s Hundred, that is. The Women’s Hundred is widely agreed to be the best thing to have happened to female cricket in the UK since bread was sliced. It has enabled the women’s game to become a profession; young, fresh and vigorous, it has attracted family audiences. The women’s game was not associated with one particular format, so the page was blank when the Hundred was devised; and the best female cricketers from around the world are competing.
The Men’s Hundred seems to be either loved or loathed. It attracts new audiences and
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. This divisiveness – since its inception in 2021 – is not going away. So far the Men’s Hundred has eluded the British genius for compromise.The when batting in the Hundred for Northern Superchargers will only polarise positions further. It is surprising that he had not ruptured himself before, when bowling in the drizzle at Cardiff against Welsh Fire in front of perhaps 200 spectators.
The game had been reduced to 25 balls per side, believed to be the shortest game of professional cricket ever: should sacrifice himself, to buy into the Hundred?
It should be pointed out, to Hundred loathers, that the scoring system can be simpler than what appears on our screens. A scoreboard on the ground will say the target is “97 off 55 balls”. It would take a professor of mathematics AND semiotics to ignore the flashing “Oh yeah!” and work out the score on television.
There are regional differences too. Franchises based at the seven Test grounds have attracted a core of supporters. Welsh Fire has always been the runt of the litter, poorly conceived. There is neither Welshness – Glamorgan’s stroke-player Kiran Carlson has been ignored – nor fieriness, now Jonny Bairstow has mellowed; they lack left-handed batsmen and finger-spinners. But people in Cardiff have never flocked to Sophia Gardens, and the very name deters cricket supporters in England’s south-west.
Lack of overseas stars
The belated arrival of some England Test players – Stokes and Harry Brook at Northern Superchargers, Joe Root at Trent Rockets – has gone some way to compensate for the scarcity of overseas stars. When Washington Freedom won the new American franchise competition, they had more stars than the whole of the Men’s Hundred in Travis Head, Steve Smith, Rachin Ravindra, Glenn Maxwell and Marco Jansen. This Hundred has seen young Lancashire players, who a month or so ago could not get into their county team for the T20 Vitality Blast.
And there have been so many low-scoring non-thrillers. Supporters were led to believe in big hitting, high scoring and plenty of spin-bowling. Instead this year’s competition has seen grassy pitches, the ball swinging and batsmen unable to score a run a ball. Tim Southee has just taken five wickets for 11 runs. Four teams have been bowled out for less than 100. When the concept was devised, it was probably not with a first innings target of 100 in mind.
But there are surely other, deeper, causes of the traditional supporter’s dissatisfaction with the Hundred. Take James Vince, by far the leading run-scorer this season. He hit an unbeaten 73 off 50 balls for Southern Brave against Welsh Fire, in a game when nobody else passed 21, but it was exactly that: power-hitting, with all 10 of his boundaries struck legside, none of his cover-driving that can be so splendid.
Competition leaves little room for creativity
The shorter the format, the less scope for batsmanship. In T20, opening batsmen are allowed to leave one ball if not two; in the difference between 100 and 120 balls a batsman’s character has a little more space to reveal itself. In the T20 World Cup final, player-of-the-match Virat Kohli’s 76 had three distinct phases: his early drives that cashed in on Jansen’s nervousness, the middle period when he could only score singles and his face mirrored his frustration, then late acceleration.
In the Hundred a batsman, like Vince, has to hit from the start and carry on hitting, or failing that nudge the ball for a single, leaving no room for individual expression. It is worthy of note that we see batting as a creative act: you make a score or build an innings, and the traditional supporter may loathe the Hundred, in part, because its brevity minimises the scope for this creativity.
As divisive as anything is the five-ball set. The Hundred has tried to reinvent the wheel of cricket, which is the six-ball over, and has not replaced it with anything better. Being shorter, the set gives a Hundred game a jerkier rhythm. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and it is telling this format has no imitators.
Tournament overshadows cricket season
The Hundred causes resentment too for taking over what used to be the prime time of the cricket season, when Test matches used to be played, and the County Championship would approach its climax and limited-overs competitions would reach their knock-out stages.
It can be blamed, and should be blamed, for England’s failure to retain the 50-over World Cup: as Brook said, preparing in the Hundred was no way to learn how to bat in the 50-over format. It is some innovation which defies the British capacity for compromise.
Steak Pie
Striker
That's just really sad to read (again) though.
What he's saying is that the last thing they want is a game of cricket to break out. They want batters - any batters, doesn't matter who - to hit the ball over the tiny boundaries so they can press the fireworks button. Hit and giggle.
When it come to the shorter formats, that's my main gripe: It's a great leveller.
The super short formats mean 36 off 19 balls is a really good innings, and just about any professional player in the world can do that occasionally. So you're dumbing the game down so much that you don't need the greatest players to produce match winning performances.
Any batter will do.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Problem been when that doesn’t happen and bowlers bowl really well like they have in this tournament with a lot of a skill tournament criticised for low scores.
Yet when to many big shots hit on flat wickets and small boundaries it’s still criticised.
So big scores, low scores, good games, bad games, angle was always going to be found to have a go
Bottom line is a lot of faults with the tournament but irrespective big scores or small scores it would meant another go at it,
The actual bowling in this tournament has been exceptional which you would think after lots of criticism of short format been too much in favour of the batsman.
Would at least prompt one or two comments about how the balance between bat and ball has reduced in this current tournament.
But of course any even the slightest balanced comment or remotely positive comment will not happen because it’s treason to even make one positive comment.
Yet when to many big shots hit on flat wickets and small boundaries it’s still criticised.
So big scores, low scores, good games, bad games, angle was always going to be found to have a go
Bottom line is a lot of faults with the tournament but irrespective big scores or small scores it would meant another go at it,
The actual bowling in this tournament has been exceptional which you would think after lots of criticism of short format been too much in favour of the batsman.
Would at least prompt one or two comments about how the balance between bat and ball has reduced in this current tournament.
But of course any even the slightest balanced comment or remotely positive comment will not happen because it’s treason to even make one positive comment.
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Aidan11
Striker
I think Stokes injury will be a pivotal moment in the future of the 16.4.
Cricket fans don't like it, other nations aren't interested, the format is haemmoraging money, they are having trouvle selling the franchises, they can't attract big stars, and now the England captain has been crocked during a rare appearance.
I really think the end is near. If this was a domestic pet it would have visited the vet for its final journey a long time ago.
Cricket fans don't like it, other nations aren't interested, the format is haemmoraging money, they are having trouvle selling the franchises, they can't attract big stars, and now the England captain has been crocked during a rare appearance.
I really think the end is near. If this was a domestic pet it would have visited the vet for its final journey a long time ago.
Inside Forward
Winger
Agreed mate. I get way more pleasure out of watching for example Joe Root leave a good 90mph ball then crunch the next slightly wider one through the covers for 4.
I don’t find watching top edges flying for 6 because the boundaries are ten yards in entertaining at all.
How much are you being paid by the crisp packets to spout this slavish bollocks by the way?
If journalists, pundits, broadcasters, administrators and now even players who are playing it in are criticising it, maybe, just maybe you could admit it isn’t all milk and honey…?
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Voice of fair play
Striker
I more than admit it.
There is many faults of the competition, which I more than accept, should have left it as T20, such a popular format no idea and massive mistake to go with 100 balls, recruitment of overseas players extremely disappointing, and competition does not geographically reach enough people.
For the above the competition hasn’t lived up to the promises made and a balanced view would accept that which I do and accept criticism for it.
What I don’t accept is no balance or no praise for good performances because people have made they mind up it before even watching it to have a go irrespective of the quality on the field.
Just listened to the weekly Wisden podcast as I normally do, which was balanced as they normally are discussing good and bad points and good and bad performances in the competition
I find it very small minded and lack of class tbh, why there is no praise whatsoever for some very high top class bowling in this competition or praise for some good knocks in it which they had been.
You know as well as I do, posters all over bad games in the competition, no praise whatsoever for good games or good performances.
I would respect them more if they just said we made how mind up years/months ago that we were going to hate this competition no matter what even if there is great games we will not praise it as that’s exactly what happening.
The competition like any cricket tournament has good games and bad ones that’s just common sense.
They is some very valid criticism of this competition other points made are not valid and complete bollocks tbf,
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