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The Hundred 2024


Parkside said:
Again ignoring my arguments.I'll use a football comparison to counter our " common sense" argument. Many football teams Hoover up what up what they consider the best players in the league but it doesn't make them best team. A mixture of money grabbers with nothing in common other than avarice won't necessarily gel as a team whereas a group who have grown as a team,become friends can produce a higher level of performance than a band of individual mercenaries. That's wholly logical.
I've heard your designated window argument ad nausea not convinced a saturated fixture list optimises support as opposed to a fixed day or night over a longer period.
You still ignore the questions
why do you support a tournament which heamorrhages money yet offers nothing more than T20 offers?
Can you not accept that the aversion to this tournament by genuine cricket lovers is because of the risk it poses of bankrupting cricket.

Don't know name but assumed it would be one of our newly signed women players.
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In answer to your last question then yes I can understand some cricket followers not liking the tournament and their concerns, always have, it was a risk taken by the ECB to make even more money and it’s yet to be seen whether that risk is successful, but tbf to your point I do understand the concerns.

And once again I don’t support this tournament I support a short format tournament in this country in a designated window like every other main cricketing nation, and once again would be happy and support it if county based.

I don’t object to people been concerned.

What I object to is the complete criticism of every single game or shot irrespective whether it good or bad.

You can disagree with something without looking for every possible angle every possible time to have a go at everything about it all the time, from crowds, shirts, name of teams, absolutely everything all the time

There is no balance in the some of the arguments summed up by the blast/100 quality argument.

You still making an argument which is an incredibly weak one that the quality isn’t better in the 100 even though they have their pick of 18 counties into 8 teams.

Broadly speaking even taking into your team spirit argument you know as well as do if you picking the best players from 18 teams into 8 in any sport that will increase the quailty. yet you still reluctant to accept that clear obvious point.
 
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Sillypoint said:
There’s a few

England’s top players rarely play in the blast, this is a chance for people to see England top players, the “Top players” don’t all have to be overseas, but you’d still complain if they upped the salaries to get the big overseas names in

Pooran, Khan, Pollard all still get IPL and considered big names in that
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Most of the England players could be seen in the CC. I've been privileged to see many world class players playing for Durham. Yes,I don't agree with the inflated salaries being offered in the Hundred to not particularly talented players . We can't compete financially with India,I think it would be financial suicide to try.Not complaining, just expressing what I consider an entirely logical viewpoint.
 
But the CC isn’t going to save cricket, it was dying, I’m surprised a county hasn’t gone already to be honest, we’re only one of three countries that sells test cricket out, there’s a lot of reasons why cricket numbers were down, competing with football, tv paywalls etc, ECB tried to do something, the format isn’t the problem either, they could have put the money into the blast but that’s double the budget or it’s watered down and split 18 ways, then a poorer product for it

They needed a product the masses can consume and eventually turn a profit and bring tv money in

I’ve said this before, this isn’t aimed at us brought up on free test cricket, it’s aimed at kids and getting them into cricket

I work with kids, have my own an help coaching too, I ask them what they like about cricket, and recently I’ve asked about the hundred too, they like The Kits, the colours, fireworks, music, flashy bails, big hits, fast bowling

And watching it live I think most would agree the atmosphere in the ground is always better when the blast games are on sky, they play more replays on the screen, they have the fire, the 3rd umpire, it’s much better spectacle
 
Could bring Richie Benaud back from the dead on comms and people would still complain just beacause it’s this competition, the standard is just as good if not better than the blast, and certainly better than the quality in the 50 over comp

What is so bad about the standard?
 
Totally agree. It's 20 years since I was involved in cricket coaching but it was still 20 overs for the youths and 8 aside in pairs for the younger ones. All I'm arguing is we'll never have the fan base to compete with India and attract that sized financial backing. Cut our clothing according to our cloth. But are we really going to be successful in selling a product that no other country plays?
T20,in 2 divisions if tv insists,together with England cricket which still has great appeal can still be a financial saviour.
 
Sillypoint said:
Could bring Richie Benaud back from the dead on comms and people would still complain just beacause it’s this competition, the standard is just as good if not better than the blast, and certainly better than the quality in the 50 over comp

What is so bad about the standard?
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Tudor that is what is so bad. He’s awful. He’s awful in the blast too. Same goes for Croft.
 
Johnap said:
The Birmigham openers tonight were Donald and Duckett.
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But neither of them made a quack.
Voice of fair play said:
In answer to your last question then yes I can understand some cricket followers not liking the tournament and their concerns, always have, it was a risk taken by the ECB to make even more money and it’s yet to be seen whether that risk is successful, but tbf to your point I do understand the concerns.

And once again I don’t support this tournament I support a short format tournament in this country in a designated window like every other main cricketing nation, and once again would be happy and support it if county based.

I don’t object to people been concerned.

What I object to is the complete criticism of every single game or shot irrespective whether it good or bad.

You can disagree with something without looking for every possible angle every possible time to have a go at everything about it all the time, from crowds, shirts, name of teams, absolutely everything all the time

There is no balance in the some of the arguments summed up by the blast/100 quality argument.

You still making an argument which is an incredibly weak one that the quality isn’t better in the 100 even though they have their pick of 18 counties into 8 teams.

Broadly speaking even taking into your team spirit argument you know as well as do if you picking the best players from 18 teams into 8 in any sport that will increase the quailty. yet you still reluctant to accept that clear obvious point.
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I don't think there's criticism of every single game -the critics barely watch the games. Lots of unnecessary mimicry imo but if kids like it so be it- I take pride in being a BOF. The argument about quality I still stand by is sound -team spirit and pride will raise standards compared to a conglomerate of mercenaries. Durham had six representatives in a recent Northern Supercharger game. I 'd argue that they'd be more charged on, subconsciously maybe, playing for Durham in the Metro Bank if salaries were matched.
"you know as well as I do" infers that I'm lying. Libellous if I choose to be pedantic but more disappointed that you should stoop to that level.
Whether one should be supportive of a tournament which constantly encourages youngsters to partake of unhealthy snacks is a further issue which shouldn't be ignored.Is that responsible parenthood?
 
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Parkside said:
Whether one should be supportive of a tournament which constantly encourages youngsters to partake of unhealthy snacks is a further issue which shouldn't be ignored.Is that responsible parenthood?
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People are just looking for negativity, what a ridiculous comment, Both Sunderland and Durham sponsored by a bettering company, the bairns not asking me to put a f***ing acca on,

The Meerkats are arguably more dominant in the coverage she's not asking for car insurance either
 
Sillypoint said:
People are just looking for negativity, what a ridiculous comment, Both Sunderland and Durham sponsored by a bettering company, the bairns not asking me to put a f***ing acca on,

The Meerkats are arguably more dominant in the coverage she's not asking for car insurance either
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I assume you mean a betting company.
I do think anything that encourages youngsters to indulge in junk food should be avoided and is irresponsible. I'm afraid I can't see what's ridiculous-they are only sponsoring to encourage youngsters to eat their product.
Likewise Car Insurance advert is aimed at adults encouraging drivers to buy their product but there's nothing potentially harmful in that.

Certain irony in DCCC announcing a sponsorship deal with a betting company on the day Carse was banned for using such a company.
Most betting sponsorship adds the rider -"Bet responsibly ".
 
Parkside said:
they are only sponsoring to encourage youngsters to eat their product.
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Aye the bairn always asks for a pack of Tyrells...its aimed at everyone

People will find fault with whatever is advertised on the shirt, Alcohol, Betting, Investment, Crisps, unless its airlines or mobile phone companies there's not a lot else for big money

And the logos arent on the kids replica shirts anyway, think as a parent id far rather my child was exposed to the odd packet of crisps than gambling
 
Sillypoint said:
Aye the bairn always asks for a pack of Tyrells...its aimed at everyone

People will find fault with whatever is advertised on the shirt, Alcohol, Betting, Investment, Crisps, unless its airlines or mobile phone companies there's not a lot else for big money

And the logos arent on the kids replica shirts anyway, think as a parent id far rather my child was exposed to the odd packet of crisps than gambling
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My apologies -I've obviously touched a raw nerve. You're correct in fault could be found in many advertising products.
I believe a more appropriate sponsor should have been sort. Seems a contradiction to try attracting youngsters to sporting activity through the medium of junk food.
 
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Thursday 1st August

Women 11.30am
London Spirit Women v Welsh Fire Women
Lord's, London

Men 3pm
London Spirit Men v Welsh Fire Men
Lord's, London


Women 3pm
Southern Brave Women v Manchester Originals Women
Utilita Bowl, Southampton

Men 6.30pm
Southern Brave Men v Manchester Originals Men
Utilita Bowl, Southampton
 
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