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Hull game protest.


Grumpy Old Man said:
There has never been a fan protest (even Blackpool), which has resulted in anything other than an ownership change at a time and price of the owners' choosing. Excepy Blackpool, where the owners were forced to sell only because they lost a court case. It's a pressure release valve for the fans, and little else.


The average football fan has no concept of corporate legal entities. The only way KLD gets any money out of Sunderland is by selling the shares for more thamn he paid for them. At present, the club can't legally pay a dividend as it soesn;t have any distributable reserves.
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I can't understand how our supporters don't get this . Those who think he is currently making money are clueless. The only way he makes money from this club is by making us successful which at the end of the day is what we all want .
 
The last protest was against PNE and requested people to walk out on 70 minutes.
I was there and I noticed nothing other than normal.
 
Rokeroar said:
Ok so he took the piss, or someone in the club did - the wording doesn’t really matter.
The main thing is it was a monumental fuck up, and he’s now very aware of it.
Now he’s got to work very hard to get the fans back onside , and I’m more interested to see what he does next. Who knows, it might just work in our favour.
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I agree. It’s a watershed moment for his ownership.

Given the past few weeks nothing less than sackings will suffice and some proper investment in the playing squad.

He needs to tidy the SOL up ad it’s a disgrace, though I would have no issue in getting the fans involved in this and I would play a part.
 
palm 1 said:
I can't understand how our supporters don't get this . Those who think he is currently making money are clueless. The only way he makes money from this club is by making us successful which at the end of the day is what we all want .
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Yeah the idea that people think a Championship club is profitable to a billionaire shows a massive lack of understanding imo.
fredthefan said:
Bovril crisps
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Now this is fair. We riot.
 
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Bawheed said:
Why don’t we turn up & …. Get behind the lads as noisily as we did yesterday- we won’t lose many home games in the championship if we were to do that!
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Class! That’ll definitely show the owners that rolling over and giving away an entire stand to our local rivals, including decorating it black and white just to make them feel at home was actually the right thing to do!
 
vinegar hill said:
I honestly still don’t think some just don’t get the enormity of the way our great club has lay down before these fuckers since the draw was made.
We’re Sunderland Association Football Club, fuck arguments about the size of clubs etc we’re one of the great clubs of English football.
KLD and his cohorts have acted like little non league whores from the allocation and signage, every which way to satisfy every need to those fuckers he’s belittled our club and made it a laughing stock.
It’s as though he’s been bedazzled by the fuckers since the draw was made and has simply been in awe of them and bowed down before them.
Look where it all ended with those fuckers taking photos in front of their fans in our end his job was then complete for them fuckers.
I bet they all congratulated him and thanked him for a job well done on the way out.
Shame on him it should never be forgotten.
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Yep, ask yourselves a question, (and forget your feelings about him) but would Bob Murray have allowed this to happen?

It should have all been about us not them and we should not have been at all accommodating to them as a club.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
There has never been a fan protest (even Blackpool), which has resulted in anything other than an ownership change at a time and price of the owners' choosing. Excepy Blackpool, where the owners were forced to sell only because they lost a court case. It's a pressure release valve for the fans, and little else.


The average football fan has no concept of corporate legal entities. The only way KLD gets any money out of Sunderland is by selling the shares for more thamn he paid for them. At present, the club can't legally pay a dividend as it soesn;t have any distributable reserves.
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a protest doesn't necessarily need to be about a change of ownership. it could be a show of strength and solidarity from the fans against how the club is being ran. i.e.. we are happy for KLD to stay but we need him to do better - if he doesn't improve things, we stop attending. '

that kind of thing
 
ClassicDom said:
Class! That’ll definitely show the owners that rolling over and giving away an entire stand to our local rivals, including decorating it black and white just to make them feel at home was actually the right thing to do!
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Were you a trouble maker at school Dom? 😀
 
Rokeroar said:
Yeah but every year we don’t get promoted we’ll end up losing players like Clarke who probably won’t wait around in the hope of playing in the Premier League with us.
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That’s true, but we’ve only not been promoted once. It’s the nature of the sport. You can’t just lay everything on the line in case your favourite player leaves.

Everybody wants, emotionally, what you’ve said. It’s just the reality, that if you’re billionaire doesn’t want to squander money recklessly, you can’t just find another one who will.
 
GBSAFC said:
Not only that they need to work out why they support safc ...if they care soo little about the shambles that's happened this week.
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I have been accused of being a happy clapper many a time in the past so not too accustomed to criticising the owners. However, I have been critical of KLD and had a bit of back and forth with the Sleepy lad on here (who I have no doubt is a decent lad and supporter) but who didn’t take well to my criticism.

Sometimes things cross the line snd the past two weeks have been heartbreaking and humiliating for all of us.

The buck ultimately has to stop with the owner. None of us know the ins and outs of the past few weeks but given the seriousness of this situation it can only be attempted to be corrected by people loosing their jobs and some proper investment into the playing squad.

If the owners can’t or won’t do that and recognise the damage that has been caused they really need to look to sell the club.
 
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tunstallhill said:
a protest doesn't necessarily need to be about a change of ownership. it could be a show of strength and solidarity from the fans against how the club is being ran. i.e.. we are happy for KLD to stay but we need him to do better - if he doesn't improve things, we stop attending. '

that kind of thing
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It's pretty clear that that's not what the OP is about. My own opinion is that a massive improvement in off the field can be achieved by the replacement of one employee with someone with a proven track record of performance delivery in customer facing businesses (football, retail or services).
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
I have been accused of being a happy clapper many a time in the past so not too accustomed to criticising the owners. However, I have been critical of KLD and had a bit of back and forth with the Sleepy lad on here (who I have no doubt is a decent lad and supporter) but who didn’t take well to my criticism.

Sometimes things cross the line snd the past two weeks have been heartbreaking and humiliating for all of us.

The buck ultimately has to stop with the owner. None of us know the ins and outs of the past few weeks but given the seriousness of this situation it can only be attempted to be corrected by people loosing their jobs and some proper investment into the playing squad.

If the owners can’t or won’t do that and recognise the damage that has been caused they really need to look to sell the club.
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Think we as a fanbase need to start thinking beyond these terms of happy clappers and bedwetting... were fans first and foremost ...of a proud club.

The club might be willing to prostitute itself but we're not for sale
 
Doberman said:
Just don't turn up.

After the events of the last 24 hours, I couldn't care less at this point.
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Never works that mate, I wish it did
We have it most every other week,
I mean Sunderland could have 10k not turn up, still be the highest crowd in the Championship probably, no f.ooker notices then
it really does need everybody, and it needs to make a mark.
Season ticket holders are still counted if the stadiums empty, how many you got?
Not gonna look stark is is it?
Fans have different tipping points, and no matter how try to stop fans doing what their grandads, dads and uncles did in a town and a football club with the history you lot have...its not gonna work.
its the ame down here, we have a chairman that single handedly got us relegated several years ago..and you still get fans saying
"yea...but"
You would have to pick a game in one of the cups, just don't go, publicise WHY you don't go , see what happens.
All thats happened in our case is simply the "Fan on fan" thing I see on here.
even if you have several clubs in the same situation, the simple tribal nature of English football fans doesn't engender sympathy, it simply gives another reason to rip the p*ss outta each other....hard circle to square mate honestly...
Most of us have the same idea of whats wrong with football..State owned clubs, millions rolling into some and out of others, despite fans tipping upin numbers in a forlorn hope to join the elite, some of which have been through administration, some of which have had parachute payments that simply reward failure, and some who flout the rules, excape the sanctions of the EFL and join in the f.ookfest of the Prem
Dunno what the answer is...I really don't
 
houghton said:
The ownership not giving a fuck about the fans and bowing down the to the mags. They’ve taken the piss out of the club. Too many fans are weak and are going to allow this to go by
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That's a lot of words to fit on a banner mind.
mackem1989 said:
Probably how the club has been ran off the pitch without any improvements

Club shop stil poor
Ticket office still poor
Steve Davison still poor
Fan interaction poor.

That’s just a few things without the fiasco of the mags game.
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All of that has been the case for a few years. Why you wanting to protest now?
 
Longy said:
That’s true, but we’ve only not been promoted once. It’s the nature of the sport. You can’t just lay everything on the line in case your favourite player leaves.

Everybody wants, emotionally, what you’ve said. It’s just the reality, that if you’re billionaire doesn’t want to squander money recklessly, you can’t just find another one who will.
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I don’t want us to squander money recklessly, and Clarke was just an example. Say him, Neil and Ballard get premier league moves at the end of the season - that would be a lot of rebuilding to do.
 
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