Leaving aside the veracity of those figures for a moment, it could have been more if there were better direct rail connections.
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Sunderland railway station.
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Boris Bear
Striker
Why are you leaving aside the veracity of those figures?
The entrance to the station was a source of embarrassment as the gateway to Sunderland; now it’s not…and this is not going to be the main entrance or the end of it. At least part funded by inward investment.
Bridges
Roads
Vaux
Port
Nissan
IAMP
University
College
Sea front
New home building programs
Hotels
Fire station
Sunderland Culture - e.g. culture house
etc
etc
etc
WTF are you on about mate?
Direct rail connections to the rest of the country mate.
Having more of those would have added to the list you’ve given above.
Why shouldn’t we expect better?
What are you on about? Do you agree that the PTE responsible for rail on Wearside had a policy of cancelling rail traffic from Sunderland through NCL?
I’ve stood in front of the ORR in London are argued for better access rights for Grand Central (to serve Sunderland) and Nexus OPPOSED it.
Boris Bear
Striker
This is improvement and you’re upset about it
No. You’re mischaracterising what I’m saying.This is improvement and you’re upset about it
If by ‘this’ you mean the black and white shed at the south end of the railway station, then yes, it is tidier. Great. Well done.
But it will do absolutely nothing in terms of improving platform capacity, which was deliberately throttled as part of the 2002 metro extension.
Greater platform capacity is needed to support more direct connections for the city in order to support economic growth.
Boris Bear
Striker
It’s not a black and white shed and it will provide a welcoming and attractive gateway to the city. The previous entrance was a source of embarrassment not befitting a city on the up. A larger north entrance is planned and eventually reopening platforms.
Will Leamside reopen? Probably only with increased demand and a change in government.
Stop moaning about improvement
It's about 1,000 times better than what was there.why are people twisting?
PinzaC55
Striker
Well a basement is basically a hole with walls so I think they should plan ahead and save money till they can build both.
The history of the station since 1966 has been filling in part of the basement, building the bungalow, digging out the basement, altering the bungalow then pulling it down and building a new bungalow. Now they have to do the basement again but have spent all their dosh.
Boris Bear
Striker
I suspect he’s a Sunderland Corruption/Global Media type
Surely you see there is greater intent and support now than in years previous?
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PinzaC55
Striker
Nonsense. The original station was knocked down when Labour were in power and they were still ploughing ahead with the Tory Beeching closures. Leamside was closed in 1991 and could have easily been reopened by Blairs Labour but they didn't. Labour don't give a flying f*** about Sunderland or the North East.
Boris Bear
Striker
So the leamside line was closed under a tory government. Thanks for that
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Copy that from the brochure did you?
It removes a grotesque wrong - granted. It’s like sticking a decent enough looking conservatory (although wtf is going on with the colours?) on the side of a house that is too small for you.
Yeah, from the perspective of entering at street level, it looks ok. As expected. Reasonable.
It’s hardly the future.
“Look lads, Sunderland railway station has got one of those flushy , watery things that you piss in”.
“Wow”.
“Let’s relocate our business there! That place is amaasazing”.
The south station entrance is a tidy up job.
But our city needs and deserves much more, much faster and much better.
PinzaC55
Striker
I can see that a large amount of cash has been spent where previous large amounts of cash have been spent, in my view cack handedly. I don't know what you mean by "intent and support" ?
Boris Bear
Striker
This is a hub and spoke transport model. We do the best we possibly can for our city and this looks like positive progress to anyone with any sense.
Genuine question for anyone who knows -
What has the new station entrance actually delivered, apart from a better overall look and appearance?
So far, I’ve got
1. Toilets
2. Seating for 6 at entrance level
It adds 50 minutes on each leg of the journey, plus involved changing. .
What has the new station entrance actually delivered, apart from a better overall look and appearance?
So far, I’ve got
1. Toilets
2. Seating for 6 at entrance level
Why should Sunderland be subordinated to a more northern city when more than 75% of rail journeys from Sunderland are Southdown.This is a hub and spoke transport model. We do the best we possibly can for our city and this looks like positive progress to anyone with any sense.
It adds 50 minutes on each leg of the journey, plus involved changing. .
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You do know it's not finished? Or does this not fit your agenda?
No I’m genuinely asking what will it deliver.
1. Toilets
2. Seating for 6
3. Space for pop-up retail
What else?
Boris Bear
Striker
It’s part of a program to deliver 2 new entrances and increased platform capacity. As I understand it there will be more seating, information systems and vendors in this entrance. The north entrance will have office space for people like Grand Central and a retail offering.
PinzaC55
Striker
Nice bit of Blue Sky Thinking there. So you mean it improves the ambience of the built environment ?
