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Leeds away £47

I think it is an attempt to bring in fairer pricing for away fans. Our West Stand seats are £47 for home fans and without a reciprocal arrangement we cannot differentiate for away fans in the same stand. Other clubs supporters are quite rightly are unhappy with the cost of of attending ER.

Cardiff reduced the cost of tickets to Leeds fans when we play them next year which enabled us to do the same to them for first game of the season. So by discounting our prices we were able to reciprocate by matching that for their fans. Nothing in it for Leeds financially as they reduced income from £47 to £21 per ticket although it did mean Cardiff's support was much healthier at ER than it would have otherwise have been.

It seems as if The FSA see this as the way forward in the EFL to ensure reasonable pricing for away fans.

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I’ll be honest mate, I think the FSA should actually be lobbying for a cap across the board not trying to push a reciprocal agreement which frankly is bullshit.
 

Looks like a deal has been agreed?

“Leeds United can now confirm ticket details for the Sky Bet Championship away clash against Sunderland, at the Stadium of Light.

The match is due to take place on Tuesday 12th December, 2023. Kick-off is at 8pm and full ticket details are below.

We are pleased to announce a reciprocal pricing deal has been agreed for this fixture.”
 
Looks like a deal has been agreed?

“Leeds United can now confirm ticket details for the Sky Bet Championship away clash against Sunderland, at the Stadium of Light.

The match is due to take place on Tuesday 12th December, 2023. Kick-off is at 8pm and full ticket details are below.

We are pleased to announce a reciprocal pricing deal has been agreed for this fixture.”

This is good news, we need to start doing a lot of more of this to look after our own.
 
What? The opposite surely?

Not really. The issue here is Leeds utterly disgusting pricing.

Leeds are basically forcing clubs to reduce their own pricing or face having their fans being charged £47 to go to Elland Road. All of course whilst Leeds pick up millions in parachute payments.

The impact on us will be minimal, but it’s not fair really on smaller clubs.

Let’s use Preston for example. If they charge £25 and give an allocation of 6000 that’s £150,000 in the coffers. If they though agree to £20 a ticket to save their fans a few quid when they go to Elland Roaf, they will lose out on £30,000. That’s probably a couple of players weekly wage lost
 

Jumped in feet first there Tunstall ;)
Their requirements seem odd.

If you attended 20 away games last season (basically every game, 19 league games and assuming they had at least one cup away game) you have a 50% chance of getting a ticket?
 
Yep, reciprocal pricing has been agreed which will save our fans £16 on their away ticket for Leeds, making it a little bit more reasonable. Still needs all the clubs, and the EFL, to come together to agree a fair maximum price for the league mind, clubs shouldn't be having to do this on a case by case basis when some clubs offer it and others don't, and hopefully that's something safc can play a part in asking for (and I'd hope a league wide agreement would be less than £29).

Still, glad that the right thing has happened on this occasion at least. I know it's something RAWA have been asking about regularly (both at the recent Q&A night and privately) and fair play to the club, it sounds like they've been very proactive in the last couple of weeks in order to get an agreement
 
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Their requirements seem odd.

If you attended 20 away games last season (basically every game, 19 league games and assuming they had at least one cup away game) you have a 50% chance of getting a ticket?
Seems fairly reasonable considering the amount of fans they usually take away.
 
What? The opposite surely?
No their whole conduct has been so sly. First announcing the rip off prices for everyone, "listening" to the backlash, knowing full well it was coming, then introducing this bribery of "well if you charge us less we'll charge you less" shite. Otherwise your fans get charged 50 quid. Horrible club
 
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No their whole conduct has been so sly. First announcing the rip off prices for everyone, "listening" to the backlash, knowing full well it was coming, then introducing this bribery of "well if you charge us less we'll charge you less" shite. Otherwise your fans get charged 50 quid. Horrible club
We can all surely agree matchday prices for away fans should reflect EPL and be capped at £30. Leeds matchday prices are higher than (our STs are good value- I only pay £389 for mine in East Stand Upper) most teams in the championship and that was the case before we went up- thanks to Ken Bates and his mantra of if you want premier league football you have to pay premier league prices to get there.

Home fans in the West Stand where Sunderland fans will be will still be paying £47 if they dont have a ST as opposed to the £29 you will have to pay.

Our problem is that we have capped STs to 22k as we have over 50,000 additional members who pay between £50-£75 a season for the right to apply for home tickets (no ST or no membership = no ticket as we dont do general sale). The club believes those 50k need an opportunity to get to at least 1 or 2 games per season so have closed new STs for several years hence a waiting list of over 20,000 in a ground holding 36-37k.

 
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We can all surely agree matchday prices for away fans should reflect EPL and be capped at £30. Leeds matchday prices are higher than (our STs are good value- I only pay £389 for mine in East Stand Upper) most teams in the championship and that was the case before we went up- thanks to Ken Bates and his mantra of if you want premier league football you have to pay premier league prices to get there.

Home fans in the West Stand where Sunderland fans will be will still be paying £47 if they dont have a ST as opposed to the £29 you will have to pay.

Our problem is that we have capped STs to 22k as we have over 50,000 additional members who pay between £50-£75 a season for the right to apply for home tickets (no ST or no membership = no ticket as we dont do general sale). The club believes those 50k need an opportunity to get to at least 1 or 2 games per season so have closed new STs for several years hence a waiting list of over 20,000 in a ground holding 36-37k.

That all sounds like a nightmare. We’re lucky we have a big stadium, but being so hard to get tickets for a championship game shouldn’t really exist.
 
I’ll be honest mate, I think the FSA should actually be lobbying for a cap across the board not trying to push a reciprocal agreement which frankly is bullshit.
Hi Hank, the FSA here (we've just registered a new FSA account but don't have privileges to post here yet so using our old FSF name / account).

Re: an away price cap across the EFL it's something which we've always lobbied for and we'll continue to push the EFL, although we also need backing on that from supporters' groups at a club level (and RAWA are doing that). It's been difficult in the EFL for various reasons but things are now moving in a more positive direction.

It's not reciprocal pricing OR away price cap though - the two things are linked. We found that in the (successful) campaign to get an away cap in the PL what actually happened was that clubs initially said no to an away cap but one-by-one they set up cheaper reciprocal deals and it eventually reached a tipping point where clubs realised they were setting up all these deals to work around a minority of clubs who were gouging fans - so they brought in an away cap. Reciprocal deals created the away cap.

So the lastest round of EFL reciprocal deals have actually made it easier for us to have conversations with various clubs and the EFL about an away cap as they start to see the benefits of a cap re: ticket sales, spend in grounds, easier admin etc. Reciprocal deals bring away prices down in the shorter term and in the longer term push in the direction of a cap.
 
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