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He wouldn`t have sent a player off in a high profile premier league game- but he was on sky and wanted to show what a billy big bollocks he was and so sent off Neil knowing that there would be no repercussions from the national media. Upshot he's a self serving prick who use the match for his own career purposes
Another assumption mate.

I am not saying you right or wrong as it’s a theory.

But it’s just an assumption based off nothing really.
 
He could be basing it on his record in the Prem for not booking players for swearing too mind
It’s contradictory imo, on one hand he is saying he wanted to be Billy bollocks on sky, but on another is saying would not sent someone off in a higher profile game in a higher league, so does he want attention or not?

Earlier posts have said he sent off a Wolves player in the premier league for little, now it’s said he would not do that in the premier league!!!


A more simply version is he had bad game, misheard what the player said, or was told or reminded before the game to be tougher on that thing.

In fact they could be any number of reasons so not quite sure why personal abuse constantly needs thrown towards a person when quite frankly none of us as any idea of the reason why.
 
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Still fuming at Dan Neil. Stupid lad shouldn't have given the ref an opportunity, it was pontless. Our goal kick, 10 seconds to go, he was already on a stupid yellow, ref has most likely warned him prior and he still does it. What did he think would happen? The ref would suddenly say "fair fucks Dan, you're right it should have been a free kick, Patto.... chuck us the ball cobber, your buddy Dan say's it should have been a free kick back there"

Blame the ref all you want, it was Dan Neil's fault
 
It’s contradictory imo, on one hand he is saying he wanted to be Billy bollocks on sky, but on another is saying would not sent someone off in a higher profile game in a higher league, so does he want attention or not?

Earlier posts have said he sent off a Wolves player in the premier league for little, now it’s said he would not do that in the premier league!!!


A more simply version is he had bad game, misheard what the player said, or was told or reminded before the game to be tougher on that thing.

In fact they could be any number of reasons so not quite sure why personal abuse constantly needs thrown towards a person when quite frankly none of us as any idea of the reason why.
I think, but may be wrong, but I do think it's because he's a useless referee. All my evidence gathering indicates that, and like you, I simply won't be swayed. Whether or not he's a massive bellend may require more data point analysis ( he is 😃).
 
It’s contradictory imo, on one hand he is saying he wanted to be Billy bollocks on sky, but on another is saying would not sent someone off in a higher profile game in a higher league, so does he want attention or not?

Earlier posts have said he sent off a Wolves player in the premier league for little, now it’s said he would not do that in the premier league!!!


A more simply version is he had bad game, misheard what the player said, or was told or reminded before the game to be tougher on that thing.

In fact they could be any number of reasons so not quite sure why personal abuse constantly needs thrown towards a person when quite frankly none of us as any idea of the reason why.
All of this would’ve been done and dusted after the game if the refs were allowed to be interviewed.
He also sent the Wolves lad off for being the 3rd person to approach him in his ivory little tower 😉
 
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All of this would’ve been done and dusted after the game if the refs were allowed to be interviewed.
He also sent the Wolves lad off for being the 3rd person to approach him in his ivory little tower 😉
Do you really think if the ref gave a explanation after the match that fans on here would say ‘ fair enough we accept what you saying’ and more on.

Because I don’t not for one second!
I think, but may be wrong, but I do think it's because he's a useless referee. All my evidence gathering indicates that, and like you, I simply won't be swayed. Whether or not he's a massive bellend may require more data point analysis ( he is 😃).
Well no it doesn’t all the sensible logic suggests of a significant amount period of time (perhaps years) he has been a good ref, hence the reason he is a the top of his profession.

What is all your evidences?

How many games?

Over how long?

Never realized in any industry that you promote useless people to the top.

Your post is another ridiculous piece of logic.

You actually suggesting ‘ all your evidence’ is a better indicator than the more informed people who know all his performances over a number of years!!
 
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It’s contradictory imo, on one hand he is saying he wanted to be Billy bollocks on sky, but on another is saying would not sent someone off in a higher profile game in a higher league, so does he want attention or not?

Earlier posts have said he sent off a Wolves player in the premier league for little, now it’s said he would not do that in the premier league!!!


A more simply version is he had bad game, misheard what the player said, or was told or reminded before the game to be tougher on that thing.

In fact they could be any number of reasons so not quite sure why personal abuse constantly needs thrown towards a person when quite frankly none of us as any idea of the reason why.

In my opinion it’s the level of attention. I am convinced he’s the jobsworth type you see in all walks of life. I’ve posted evidence previously, but in summary, him getting micd up for Var, his Instagram and the sending off of the wolves player and Dan Neil is the evidence.

You see it everywhere, from school up. Use work as an example, you must have seen people who’ll react differently when they think it shows them in a good light to their bosses? The type who’ll hear the same thing 100 times and day fuck all, but if the senior manager is there theyll make a point of saying something.

I’m convinced that’s what this bloke is. He’s so invested in his career, that he’ll make “statements” to tick that box and get ahead. There’s no way you don’t book someone for screaming **** or Fuckoff in your face, when they aren’t on a booking, but send someone off who’s twenty yards away for swearing. It’s his statement, and I can almost guarantee he’ll keep doing stuff like this, because in my opinion he’s that type of bloke, and in the experience I have of jobsworths it’s what they do.
 
Do you really think if the ref gave a explanation after the match that fans on here would say ‘ fair enough we accept what you saying’ and more on.

Because I don’t not for one second!

Well no it doesn’t all the sensible logic suggests of a significant amount period of time (perhaps years) he has been a good ref, hence the reason he is a the top of his profession.

What is all your evidences?

How many games?

Over how long?

Never realized in any industry that you promote useless people to the top.

Your post is another ridiculous piece of logic.

You actually suggesting ‘ all your evidence’ is a better indicator than the more informed people who know all his performances over a number of years!!
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My eyes.
Two.
Approximately 200 minutes.
If you didn't realise useless people get promoted, then you're naive.
My evidence is iron clad, it's been collected by me and isn't an assumption of someone else's worth as an evidence collector.

He's shite.
 
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My eyes.
Two.
Approximately 200 minutes.
If you didn't realise useless people get promoted, then you're naive.
My evidence is iron clad, it's been collected by me and isn't an assumption of someone else's worth as an evidence collector.

He's shite.
It’s just simple logic sense that people including refs have had a lot of good games to rise to the top of their profession.
Instead of taking a step back and having a bit perspective, refs are called incompetent, useless, should never ref again, based of watching them once!!!

Completely ignoring the point that the person must have been a very good ref to be where he is or at the very least better than his peers.

Only in football do people lose all sense of perspective and common sense.
Exhibit A - Liz Truss
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Well yeah that’s fair you well always get the odd exception, but it’s obvious surely that when refs get promoted to the premier league it will be because they have had a hell of a lot of good games previously what other reason is there??
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My eyes.
Two.
Approximately 200 minutes.
If you didn't realise useless people get promoted, then you're naive.
My evidence is iron clad, it's been collected by me and isn't an assumption of someone else's worth as an evidence collector.

He's shite.
Yeah evidence in your own words is based of 200 minutes.

Yet people who decide who refs in the premier league will have evidence based over years and thousands of minutes!

It doesn’t take much logic to work out who is in a more informed position to decide if someone is good at something.

Someone or some organization who has access to performances over thousands of minutes or someone 200 minutes.
 
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It’s just simple logic sense that people including refs have had a lot of good games to rise to the top of their profession.
Instead of taking a step back and having a bit perspective, refs are called incompetent, useless, should never ref again, based of watching them once!!!

Completely ignoring the point that the person must have been a very good ref to be where he is or at the very least better than his peers.

Only in football do people lose all sense of perspective and common sense.

Well yeah that’s fair you well always get the odd exception, but it’s obvious surely that when refs get promoted to the premier league it will be because they have had a hell of a lot of good games previously what other reason is there??

Yeah evidence in your own words is based of 200 minutes.

Yet people who decide who refs in the premier league will have evidence based over years and thousands of minutes!

It doesn’t take much logic to work out who is in a more informed position to decide if someone is good at something.

Someone or some organization who has access to performances over thousands of minutes or someone 200 minutes.
You're relying on unreliable and assumed, second hand data ... supposedly collected and analysed by competent parties, just because you want to!

What is the ISO standard they work to? In fact, ARE THEY EVEN CERTIFIED?

this gets worse the more you think about it, you're down the rabbit hole and moving away from the light with every post.
 
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