I’ve seen this back. He should have 100% sent him off and he had any number of ways he could have done it.
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Voice of fair play
Striker
Maybe if the ref ‘seen it back’ like you he may have done.
I didn’t need to see it back. It was a red all day for the way he caught him with his arm, at best for him it was a yellow, should then be a yellow for the chew if Ballard is getting one. What a didn’t see from about 70 yards away was the attempted headbutt, also a red card offence, maybe the 4 officials, 3 within about 20 yards should have, what with it being there job. Hence seeing it back and being any number of ways he could have sent him off. You really will defend anything when it comes to refs won’t you.
naughtynose
Striker
Small man syndrome
Totally agree.
5 match ban for the ref?
Not that it helps the club but may make them perform a bit better.
Georgewhitt
Winger
Mate I'm not ignoring the crap game the ref had. . If you read my posts on this, I think the ref was f***ing awful. He ignored so much stuff, and missed blatant fouls. Clarke was getting fouled all the time, and the ref let alot of them go. I agree the ref was shite. And I agree Dan can feel hard done by.
But he got booked for gobbing off. He doesn't gob off, he doesn't get booked.
Voice of fair play
Striker
It’s the lack of people looking at bigger picture and reasons for these mistakes that gets me.
Year after year, month after month you get these threads after ref after ref fails to book or send people off.
It’s happened for years.
At what point do fans step back and say?
Maybe it’s not as easy as it looks maybe having to give decisions in real time is really difficult.
After all, all the evidence shows that.
Or is it just every ref from every era is just shit?
It’s the first one that makes common sense to me
Both terrible decisions at the weekend were nothing to do with the 'speed of the game these days'. The game was stopped when Neil was sent off. Ballard was challenging for a looping header that had travelled about 30 yards.
As Ballard was our back man one linesman should be in line. The other would be in line with there back man which is about 20 yards inside their half. I don't recall which side the linesmen were on, I watched the game on my phone on holiday, not ideal.
Worst case scenario would be if the East Stand linesman was up towards the North Stand. If that was the case he would have been a good 40 yards away with the Boro lad with his back to him. However, the other linesman should have a decent view as should the ref.
It wasn't a clever foul, it was f***ing blatant so there should have been no doubt what the kid had done. He was literally nowhere near the ball with his head.
As Ballard was our back man one linesman should be in line. The other would be in line with there back man which is about 20 yards inside their half. I don't recall which side the linesmen were on, I watched the game on my phone on holiday, not ideal.
Worst case scenario would be if the East Stand linesman was up towards the North Stand. If that was the case he would have been a good 40 yards away with the Boro lad with his back to him. However, the other linesman should have a decent view as should the ref.
It wasn't a clever foul, it was f***ing blatant so there should have been no doubt what the kid had done. He was literally nowhere near the ball with his head.
AC Mack
Striker
Linesman was at the far side, not really to blame. The ref was pretty close.
Just watching it back now, both commentators referred to it as 'a coming together'.
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Cheers. The near side linesman should have only been about 40 yards away too.
It was ridiculous of them both to miss it or misjudged it. We got pulled up twice for similar looping balls that dropped on the keeper. It was obvious we weren't really challenging for the ball. Just getting in the keepers way.
The difference is neither of our players led with the arm or spun the keeper off his feet dumping him on the deck from height.
AC Mack
Striker
Near side linesman was about 40 yards away but plenty of bodies, his view probably wasn't much better than the far side linesman who was right in line but miles away.
The ref's about 25 yards away. He's looking right at it but blowing for half time as the challenge takes place.
tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
I think this post does indeed point to someone as being a twat. Not convinced its the ref mind.......
How about the 4th official, he should have had a great view?
I was at the front of the prem concourse north stand goal line and had a great view.
It was a criminal assault, no attempt at the ball and smacked Dan so hard with an elbow to the face he was spun around mid air.
Much worse than a 'coming together'.
AC Mack
Striker
The fourth official actually had the best view, but he seemed to turn away straight away as the ref had blown the whistle.
Fair enough, didn't see that
soapster
Striker
same here and also annoyed that these incidents have not been picked up by the media.
we get shafted and nobody is going to do anything about it
Cyprus
Winger
It's the way of the world unfortunately.
There is very little or no accountability these days and you can bet your bottom dollar that Gillett will be officiating another high profile or Premier League game after the international break.
I must confess to knowing very little about this particular referee before Saturday but it would appear that he has form for making poor and/or controversial decisions both as an on-field and VAR official.
As I understand, the only punishment referees tend to receive for their perceived failings is to be 'demoted' to the EFL where they don't have the benefit of technology to assist them which in turn only punishes the likes of ourselves who have to endure them for a game and are subsequently adversely impacted by their ineptitude (remember select group referee Craig Pawson at Blackburn last season?).
I genuinely hope that the club has made representation to the powers that be about Gillett and the inconsistency of his decisions. Let's hope it's the last we see of him in a good while.
makumstu
Striker
Maybe that was a decision made in the referees dressing room to be done in solidarity with his assistant and nothing to do with players at all.
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