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The ref (see PGMOL thread)

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supercollins2 said:
Nail on the head, football brings out adrenalin, which brings out various emotions, which in some people can lead to swearing... anyone with a football background or has even played football a handful of times knows this, a better ref calls O'Nien the captain to him and says he needs to calm down hes on a yellow.. job done.
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This thread is just outing everyone who has never actually played the game
 

Aye the ref was shite as Boro should have had at least 1 yellow before Neil got his 1st but that was just f***ing stupid from Neil already being on a yellow (again from a daft needless challenge with raised foot showing studs). I know Mowbray has commented on it but I'm not sure it's as simple as a frustrated throwaway "That's a f***ing foul" comment given the gesturing and then initial approach to the ref from Neil as what was said exactly?

You can see the ref points at Neil (it's a goal kick so he's not pointing for a corner) and then sweeps his arm to the side so is the ref telling Neil to go away? Neil kept coming towards the ref so the ref got out his yellow before Neil got to him.

You can see Neil's initial reaction more clearly in the live Youtube gif clip (is this the initial "f***ing foul" comment?) and the ref pointing. The 2nd gif also shows the ref's sweeping arm action but then he seems to react to Neil right after so what did Neil also say at that point to get a reaction like that?

For all we know Neil could have said summit else when the ref told him to go away. I doubt a player is going to admit it if he rightly sent off for what he said as he's be heaping all the blame on himself. Does the ref's report include what was said? It's just a shame O'Nien as a Captain especially didn't grab Neil when he was near to Neil starting to complain.

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Just got home, not analysed too much but so so angry at this, and the ref decision - its just not right in any way (as much as neil could take some blame), it not a second yellow ffs
on the same basis there would have been 4/5 reds today
 
If Neil had sworn at the ref then fair enough,but seemingly that isn't the case. I'd be staggered if someone on the pitch didn't say "fuck" every time a free kick was given. A decent ref would have a word, near half time, tell him to calm down and give a warning. It doesn't excuse the second half at all, but I won't criticise Neil one bit for saying fuck during a match. The ref can fuck off back to Australia tbh, if we haven't got better here we're in a sorry state
 
He should have been sent off for the first challenge, studs in high and deliberately kept up. The usual piss poor Patterson was more to blame today, another laughable performance by him
 
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Aye the ref was shite as Boro should have had at least 1 yellow before Neil got his 1st but that was just f***ing stupid from Neil already being on a yellow (again from a daft needless challenge with raised foot showing studs). I know Mowbray has commented on it but I'm not sure it's as simple as a frustrated throwaway "That's a f***ing foul" comment given the gesturing and then initial approach to the ref from Neil as what was said exactly?

You can see the ref points at Neil (it's a goal kick so he's not pointing for a corner) and then sweeps his arm to the side so is the ref telling Neil to go away? Neil kept coming towards the ref so the ref got out his yellow before Neil got to him.

You can see Neil's initial reaction more clearly in the live Youtube gif clip (is this the initial "f***ing foul" comment?) and the ref pointing. The 2nd gif also shows the ref's sweeping arm action but then he seems to react to Neil right after so what did Neil also say at that point to get a reaction like that?

For all we know Neil could have said summit else when the ref told him to go away. I doubt a player is going to admit it if he rightly sent off for what he said and heaping all the blame on himself. Does the ref's report include what was said? It's just a shame O'Nien didn't grab Neil when he was near to Neil starting to complain.

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He’s clearly walking back towards the middle of the pitch man. He only turns directly to the ref when the card is raised

People are confusing him walking near a ref to “marching aggressively at him”.

Neil raises his arms and within 2 paces the ref has reached for his pocket. At that point Neil turns his body more directly to the ref.

From the minute Neil raised his arm he was gone in the refs mind. No amount of walking, jogging or skipping in any direction was changing that
 
G Force said:
He’s clearly walking back towards the middle of the pitch man. He only turns directly to the ref when the card is raised

People are confusing him walking near a ref to “marching aggressively at him”.

Neil raises his arms and within 2 paces the ref has reached for his pocket. At that point Neil turns his body more directly to the ref.

From the minute Neil raised his arm he was gone in the refs mind. No amount of walking, jogging or skipping in any direction was changing that
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What's to say raising the arm wasn't dissent? :lol: :rolleyes:
 
G Force said:
He’s clearly walking back towards the middle of the pitch man. He only turns directly to the ref when the card is raised

People are confusing him walking near a ref to “marching aggressively at him”.

Neil raises his arms and within 2 paces the ref has reached for his pocket. At that point Neil turns his body more directly to the ref.

From the minute Neil raised his arm he was gone in the refs mind. No amount of walking, jogging or skipping in any direction was changing that
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Its the 1 second pause between gesturing go away and then actually nah fuck it Im going to book you... shambolic ref honestly
 
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