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Russell Martin has Ross Stewart as his main target **Transfer confirmed **

MurtonMark said:
There’s no suggestion whatsoever that Southampton are running around offering players sums which are substantially higher than their assessment of that players worth.

In fact, the way Southampton have done their business for over a decade, suggests the exact opposite.
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They've just signed Mason Holgate after reaching an agreement to cover his wages of 72k a week with a fee agreed of 9m at the end of it :lol:

Yet you think we can offer the same wages that they will offer Stewart.
 

wicketkeeper said:
Mowbray is on record as saying he will stay if we meet his demands
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Well aye, but what if his demands are a 5 year deal and £50,000 a week? Of course he'd stay if we met them, but it's not at all realistic.

Also, Mowbray is on record as saying countless things that have turned out to be complete and utter nonsense during his time here so I would be taking anything he says with a massive pinch of salt.

Ironically, the likes of yourself and @MurtonMark would be the first two on here having a go creating 30 threads a day if we gave Stewart what he wanted no matter what and he then either got injured again and/or flopped. It would be "how naive could we be, Stewart and his agent have ran rings around Speakman and KLD" and so on.

And if you're looking for someone to paint as an apologist for the club, it certainly isn't me. In fact I would have largely have a reputation on here for doing the exact opposite over many years.

Ultimately, the reality is if Stewart wants to go, there is absolutely nothing that any of us can do to change it. And the only way the club can change it is by offering the type of deal that would have the knock-on consequences that you, Mark and co would fatten on.
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
You're proving exactly how much you don't know here. Their wage bill equates to rougly £40m per year, ours is £7m ish. Ross Stewart may cost them £30,000 pw, or £1.5m per year. A drop in the ocean in their wage bill. Which is financially covered alone by Parachute payments. If we offered Stewart £30,000pw, that's roughly 20% of our entire wage bill. We cannot do that without balancing the books by making profits on player sales. If we did that and Jack Clarke left tomorrow, I can imagine exactly what your response is going to be.
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Poor little old Sunderland. etc etc.

The club has done a superb job on some people. It really has. If nothing else the PR operation has been superb.
 
MurtonMark said:
Is there any evidence at all that Southampton are in “money wasting” mode, and are offering players more than Southanpton think they’re worth, just for the sake of wasting money?

No. There isn’t.
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That is not what people are saying is it tho? Nobody has said they're over paying, what people are rightly saying is they can pay a player who wants 30k a week, 30k a week. We can't.
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
f***ing hell :lol: :lol: :lol: get yourself logged off man. You have absolutely no idea how the finances work when a club comes down from the premier league. They are lightyears ahead of other teams in the divison, absoltely lightyears. We were a league 1 club 2 seasons ago who actively lost money every year.
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I am sick and tired of listening to apologists for penny pinching and unprofessionalism( 6 months without a striker)
We get 40k attendance every week and are far and above the biggest club in the championship. It is time we started acting like it.
Drumaville showed what can be achieved with investment when they actually backed Roy Keane
 
MurtonMark said:
Poor little old Sunderland. etc etc.

The club has done a superb job on some people. It really has. If nothing else the PR operation has been superb.
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Good argument again mate. What an absolute weapon. Maybe some people can just accept the reality of the situation we are in financially after years and years in league one. If you think we should be competing with Southampton financially you are either A) in total denial or B) not the sharpest tool in the box.
 
wicketkeeper said:
I am sick and tired of listening to apologists for penny pinching and unprofessionalism( 6 months without a striker)
We get 40k attendance every week and are far and above the biggest club in the championship. It is time we strated acting like it.
Drumaville showed what can be achieved with investment when they actually backed Roy Keane
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There it is :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
MurtonMark said:
I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

The underlying assumption in this “we can’t compete with Southampton” apologist nonsense, is that Southampton are wilfully wasting money and/or are offering players well over their own assessment of that players worth. They’re not, and there’s no evidence at all that they are.
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Mark, by your logic, Luton should be competing with Manchester City or Chelsea for players. Both are Premier League clubs after Premier League players.

It simply doesn't work like that.

Southampton have 3 years of parachute payments to come and have brought in £175m from player sales so far this summer with more on the way.

I don't like it any more than you do, but they are currently a far greater prospect than us both performance wise and financially, whether you want to accept that reality or not.
 
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wicketkeeper said:
I am sick and tired of listening to apologists for penny pinching and unprofessionalism( 6 months without a striker)
We get 40k attendance every week and are far and above the biggest club in the championship. It is time we started acting like it.
Drumaville showed what can be achieved with investment when they actually backed Roy Keane
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
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