Russell Martin has Ross Stewart as his main target **Transfer confirmed **

[squidly diddly]

I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

The underlying assumption in this “we can’t compete with Southampton” apologist nonsense, is that Southampton are wilfully wasting money and/or are offering players well over their own assessment of that players worth. They’re not, and there’s no evidence at all that they are.


Speakman podcast episode 16; “Little old Sunderland, KNOW YOURPLACE”.

Seriously log off, go out get some fresh air and take the delsusion goggles off.

 

[Disco_Pants93]

I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

The underlying assumption in this “we can’t compete with Southampton” apologist nonsense, is that Southampton are wilfully wasting money and/or are offering players well over their own assessment of that players worth. They’re not, and there’s no evidence at all that they are.


Speakman podcast episode 16; “Poor little old Sunderland, KNOW YOUR PLACE”.

f***ing hell get yourself logged off man. You have absolutely no idea how the finances work when a club comes down from the premier league. They are lightyears ahead of other teams in the divison, absoltely lightyears. We were a league 1 club 2 seasons ago who actively lost money every year.

 

[Chill]

Personally I'd be gutted if he leaves, I suppose we'll have to wait till the end of the transfer window to see if we are moving forward or backwards as a club.

 

[wicketkeeper]

What’s a high enough salary? If Stewart comes back and is firing goals in the current offer becomes null and void as Stewart knows a transfer in the summer for free gives him a massive signing on fee. The economics of everything changes if he winds down his contract and is playing well
and I wouldn’t blame Stewart we’d all do similar in our own jobs looking for the best deal possible

Its high enough that he wont look to other championship clubs. Do you trust us to offer it. I emphatically do not

 

[WishyWashy]

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First bid rejected, £5m. Wanting up to £8m.

 

[splorty]

He’s gonna be sold, and not for much. Last year of contract and serious injury not recovered from yet.

Also club need to move on. Stewart has been good for us but sunderland have been good for him also. Thought he would sign as thought of as a model pro, but goes to show they’re all the same. Don’t get attached to footballers eh..

 

[MurtonMark]

f***ing hell get yourself logged off man. You have absolutely no idea how the finances work when a club comes down from the premier league. They are lightyears ahead of other teams in the divison, absoltely lightyears. We were a league 1 club 2 seasons ago who actively lost money every year.

There’s no suggestion whatsoever that Southampton are running around offering players sums which are substantially higher than their assessment of that players worth.

In fact, the way Southampton have done their business for over a decade, suggests the exact opposite.

 

[Blyth]

I realize that. Their owners spend money

It's realise. Luton spent money? Brentford spent money?

Just answer this one question for me, as you and Mark will avoid it.

Do you think we can financially compete with Southampton?

 

[Mowgli]

How can people enjoy spending their life sat day in and day out posting the exact same shit?

 

[Blyth]

I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

So you are saying we are able to compete financially with Southampton when it comes to signing players?

 

[Happy_Layabout]

This and you can hear them saying Mayenda isn’t far away …

yep

 

[Pacific]

I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

The underlying assumption in this “we can’t compete with Southampton” apologist nonsense, is that Southampton are wilfully wasting money and/or are offering players well over their own assessment of that players worth. They’re not, and there’s no evidence at all that they are.


Speakman podcast episode 16; “Poor little old Sunderland, KNOW YOUR PLACE”.

Southampton could buy our entire club 2/3 times over with just the money they've received in fees this summer nevermind parachute payments etc. they might be in the same league on paper but they're so far ahead of us and most others in the league it's a laughable comparison

 

[the dude]

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First bid rejected, £5m. Wanting up to £8m.

Tbh if we get £8mill for him that will be an excellent deal. Last year of his contract and injured, snap their hands off.

 

[MurtonMark]

Southampton could buy our entire club 2/3 times over with just the money they've received in fees this summer nevermind parachute payments etc. they might be in the same league on paper but they're so far ahead of us and most others in the league it's a laughable comparison

Is there any evidence at all that Southampton are in “money wasting” mode, and are offering players more than Southanpton think they’re worth, just for the sake of wasting money?

No. There isn’t.

 

[Deleted member 52184]

So we have knocked back 5m which means we will get more than most people thought

 

[HettonSAFC]

Southampton could buy our entire club 2/3 times over with just the money they've received in fees this summer nevermind parachute payments etc. they might be in the same league on paper but they're so far ahead of us and most others in the league it's a laughable comparison

Being promoted is worth an extra £150m. Is being relegated not losing the majority of that.

 

[Shibby Safc]

So we have knocked back 5m which means we will get more than most people thought

References we want c8m which would be brilliant business even though i'd love him to stay

 

[MurtonMark]

Tbh if we get £8mill for him that will be an excellent deal. Last year of his contract and injured, snap their hands off.

Depends what happens to the £8m.

The reported fee for Lihadji was a good deal in theory, but it turns out that a pile of money can’t stand in for Roberts when he’s injured.

 

[Disco_Pants93]

There’s no suggestion whatsoever that Southampton are running around offering players sums which are substantially higher than their assessment of that players worth.

In fact, the way Southampton have done their business for over a decade, suggests the exact opposite.

You're proving exactly how much you don't know here. Their wage bill equates to rougly £40m per year, ours is £7m ish. Ross Stewart may cost them £30,000 pw, or £1.5m per year. A drop in the ocean in their wage bill. Which is financially covered alone by Parachute payments. If we offered Stewart £30,000pw, that's roughly 20% of our entire wage bill. We cannot do that without balancing the books by making profits on player sales. If we did that and Jack Clarke left tomorrow, I can imagine exactly what your response is going to be.

 

[LukeJH96]

Tbh if we get £8mill for him that will be an excellent deal. Last year of his contract and injured, snap their hands off.

I couldn’t give a shit if we get 8 million or 20 million. It’s meaningless unless we get a proper replacement in.