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Russell Martin has Ross Stewart as his main target **Transfer confirmed **


wicketkeeper said:
There has been well over 500 posts on here but the whole thing about our club can summed up as follows.

If Ross Stewart comes back and starts scoring loads of goals who on here believes that our club ( who have the biggest attendance in the championship) will pay enough salary to ward off interest from other championship clubs.
I do not believe that they would and that is the nub of the problem with our club.
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No it can't. That's your view. You're refusing to see any other agenda. You expect the football club to pay whatever somebody wants and it won't happen. If you don't like it I hear Newcastle are offering players whatever they want
 
So first of all, we ARE a selling club, by definition. Because we are a championship club that is self sufficient. However, we aren't the selling club some have imagined of us. By the sounds of it we would rather keep the likes of Clarke and Ballard despite determined interest from the Prem.

Second, Mr Stewart has been a top pro for us, provided us with joyous memories, been one of the best strikers I've seen for us during the last 12 months, despite his terrible injuries. He seems irreplaceable due to his attributes. He does deserve to be given the chance to get 5/10 times his wage. It'll be sad to see him go, but he's gotta think about his future.

Club wise, I thought we'd hang on to him, get him fit and firing, then offer him 20k a week. If Soton are keen enough to offer say, £7 million upfront with add ons, then I'd understand this completely, if we have a suitable candidate lined up before signing off on the sale.

We needed Rusyn before RS leaves, so we now will need another. As long as we are planning to reinvest the fee we receive, we can't complain. Many are mentioning Tom Cannon. If its him and its not permanent, it'll have to be with the option of a permanent move, at least.
 
Blyth said:
I trust the club to stick to their budget, which we have failed to do in the past which ended us in League One in the worst period of our whole existence as a football club, I will leave it for you to think about that.
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And that is the approach adopted by all successful clubs like Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool I could go on. Name me a club that has 'stuck to its budget' and been successful
We are a HUGE club we are not a Luton or Bournemouth
 
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wicketkeeper said:
There has been well over 500 posts on here but the whole thing about our club can summed up as follows.

If Ross Stewart comes back and starts scoring loads of goals who on here believes that our club ( who have the biggest attendance in the championship) will pay enough salary to ward off interest from other championship clubs.
I do not believe that they would and that is the nub of the problem with our club.
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What’s a high enough salary? If Stewart comes back and is firing goals in the current offer becomes null and void as Stewart knows a transfer in the summer for free gives him a massive signing on fee. The economics of everything changes if he winds down his contract and is playing well
and I wouldn’t blame Stewart we’d all do similar in our own jobs looking for the best deal possible
 
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Blyth said:
I trust the club to stick to their budget, which we have failed to do in the past which ended us in League One in the worst period of our whole existence as a football club, I will leave it for you to think about that.
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I never thought the problem was that we spent money, the problem was we wasted it on poor players.
Then Short got pissed off and didn't want to spend anymore. But when we had that Welsh manager (briefly), if he could have bought a decent keeper and striker we may well have not sunk into L1.
 
sunderpitt said:
I never thought the problem was that we spent money, the problem was we wasted it on poor players.
Then Short got pissed off and didn't want to spend anymore. But when we had that Welsh manager (briefly), if he could have bought a decent keeper and striker we may well have not sunk into L1.
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The problem is if you spend what you don't have, and the owner decides that's it, you are in the shit. There's a few on here that would love that.
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
So you've argued absolutely none of my points. If you think it's sensible to break the wage structure for a player who still hasn't recovered from a career threatening injury then I don't know what to say. Southampton could take the gamble tomorrow and financially write it off very quickly, we however can't. If you also think we should just be able to spend what we want when we want then you're also naive about the current finances. We have sold nobody of any value since the new owners came in, that simply can't be sustained. FFP means the books have to balance whether you, me or anyone else likes it. Ross has been offered a very good deal within our wage structure and he is being told he's worth more and can get it elsewhere, good for him if he does go and get it. Giving people exactly what they want without thought or consideration for consequence is exactly how the club was very very close to folding in the early league 1 years.
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I said the same thing to the OP but because he plays footy manager in his mam’s spare room he knows everything.
 
Blyth said:
I mean come on, you are turning into a parody account now :lol:
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Cos Man City were hugely successful, offering players exactly what they want before they were bankrolled. Funny that, Newcastle fans weren't happy with their owners until they were bankrolled by the Saudi State as well :lol: I don't known why some of our fans don't just jump ship because clearly want they want is owners who will spend endlessly without thought.
squidly diddly said:
I said the same thing to the OP but because he plays footy manager in his mam’s spare room he knows everything.
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He refuses to argue any solid argument against his absolutely numb argument.
 
wicketkeeper said:
And that is the approach adopted by all scuccessful clubs like Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool I could go on. Name me a club that has 'stuck to its budget' and been successful
We are a HUGE club we are not a Luton or Bournemouth
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We haven’t been a huge club for god knows how many years, we are a mid sized club with decent crowds. And atm the likes of Bournemouth are well ahead of us in the doing well stakes
 
Blyth said:
Are you saying we are at Southampton's level financially?
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I’m saying we are at Southampton's level, yes. We’re both championship clubs and the player in question is a championship player.

The underlying assumption in this “we can’t compete with Southampton” apologist nonsense, is that Southampton are wilfully wasting money and/or are offering players well over their own assessment of that players worth. They’re not, and there’s no evidence at all that they are.
Boz33 said:
We haven’t been a huge club for god knows how many years, we are a mid sized club with decent crowds. And atm the likes of Bournemouth are well ahead of us in the doing well stakes
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Speakman podcast episode 16; “Poor little old Sunderland, KNOW YOUR PLACE”.
 
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