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Russell Martin has Ross Stewart as his main target **Transfer confirmed **

kildaremackem said:
hecertain;y isnt the best steiker in the league and he doesnt deserve to be the highest paid one..the lad leeds have just signed is far more valuable and proven at this level for example...stewart culd be very good..but he might not be..he has only a handful of games played at this level..and that was prior to the injury..
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That’s up for debate.

I wouldn’t swap a fit ross stewart for any striker in this league.

The only one I seen that could give him a run for his money left Coventry for 20 million in the summer.
 

kildaremackem said:
hecertain;y isnt the best steiker in the league and he doesnt deserve to be the highest paid one..the lad leeds have just signed is far more valuable and proven at this level for example...stewart culd be very good..but he might not be..he has only a handful of games played at this level..and that was prior to the injury..
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Small sample but last season he was statistically the best striker in the league so yes he is therefore arguably the best striker in the league.
 
kildaremackem said:
hecertain;y isnt the best steiker in the league and he doesnt deserve to be the highest paid one..the lad leeds have just signed is far more valuable and proven at this level for example...stewart culd be very good..but he might not be..he has only a handful of games played at this level..and that was prior to the injury..
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A fit RS was the best striker in the FL last season. A fit RS will be the best striker in the FL this season. Anyone with even the slightest interest in football can see that. Returning him to full fitness is the problem.
 
riffraff said:
A fit RS was the best striker in the FL last season. A fit RS will be the best striker in the FL this season. Anyone with even the slightest interest in football can see that. Returning him to full fitness is the problem.
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We have seen how much it costs to buy a capable striker, Simms cost Coventry 8 million and he couldn’t lace Stewart’s boots! If the reports are true and it’s 5k extra a week the club are haggling over then that is an idiotic decision not to give him it given how difficult and costly it will be to replace him.
 
Happy_Layabout said:
Yep. we have the opportunity to sign the best striker in the league, without any competition for his signature and for free.
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I would hardly say we have no competition mind given he's a free agent in less than 12 months.

People seem to think we can hold a gun to his head and force him to sign a new contract.

If he wants to wait to test the market and/or go, he can do so.
 
riffraff said:
A fit RS was the best striker in the FL last season. A fit RS will be the best striker in the FL this season. Anyone with even the slightest interest in football can see that. Returning him to full fitness is the problem.
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an injured player is never the the bezt in a division..what has sytewaRT actually done that piroe hasnt?
And a player can be the most talented, while also not being the most valuable..thats a distinction not really recognised on here.
 
kildaremackem said:
hecertain;y isnt the best steiker in the league and he doesnt deserve to be the highest paid one..the lad leeds have just signed is far more valuable and proven at this level for example...stewart culd be very good..but he might not be..he has only a handful of games played at this level..and that was prior to the injury..
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He demonstrated he was very good at this level in the games he played. Ignoring his superb goal return, the way he stretched defences, ran the channels, pressed, aided his defenders, and looked totally natural at the level eradicated any doubt about his ability to step up (and I had them). There was more than enough of a sample size to know he was very, very good.

Whether he returns the same player post injury is unknown but if he does he’s certainly worthy of a top end second division salary. Without question
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
He demonstrated he was very good at this level in the games he played. Ignoring his superb goal return, the way he stretched defences, ran the channels, pressed, aided his defenders, and looked totally natural at the level eradicated any doubt about his ability to step up (and I had them). There was more than enough of a sample size to know he was very, very good.

Whether he returns the same player post injury is unknown but if he does he’s certainly worthy of a top end second division salary. Without question
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no one is disputing that he was very good from the small sample size of games he played..and certainly he is worth a salary comensurate with being an upper end of the championship striker..
but i would argue that of the strikers left in the division now..piroe is more valuable because he has done more and over more games/seasons and at a younger age...
 
kildaremackem said:
no one is disputing that he was very good from the small sample size of games he played..and certainly he is worth a salary comensurate with being an upper end of the championship striker..
but i would argue that of the strikers left in the division now..piroe is more valuable because he has done more and over more games/seasons and at a younger age...
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Piroe probably is. And I bet he’s paid accordingly. Stewart is within his rights to want similar terms. He may not get them but he is worthy of being in the same ball park.
 
kildaremackem said:
an injured player is never the the bezt in a division..what has sytewaRT actually done that piroe hasnt?
And a player can be the most talented, while also not being the most valuable..thats a distinction not really recognised on here.
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In an all-be-it very small pool of games last season, Stewart's output was ridiculous. He was a statistical anomaly, an outlier that hammered players that went for 30m quid in the summer. Of course, the balance is, is that very small pool of games his norm or a purple patch and does he come back the same?

Either way, it won't have gone unnoticed.
 
The Situation said:
I would hardly say we have no competition mind given he's a free agent in less than 12 months.
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I think you know what I mean. We have first shot at getting a deal with him.

There's no auction with other buying clubs offering bigger fees than we can afford (like Simms and/or Cannon for example)

Obv depend on the gap between his demands and our top offer. But the maths would be interesting to see that prove we are better off losing Stwart for nowt then having to buy his replacement rather than amending our wage structure in the face of our experience in attracting ready to go CFs.
 
Coeus said:
In an all-be-it very small pool of games last season, Stewart's output was ridiculous. He was a statistical anomaly, an outlier that hammered players that went for 30m quid in the summer. Of course, the balance is, is that very small pool of games his norm or a purple patch and does he come back the same?

Either way, it won't have gone unnoticed.
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excellent summation..
 
Happy_Layabout said:
I think you know what I mean. We have first shot at getting a deal with him.

There's no auction with other buying clubs offering bigger fees than we can afford (like Simms and/or Cannon for example)

Obv depend on the gap between his demands and our top offer. But the maths would be interesting to see that prove we are better off losing Stwart for nowt then having to buy his replacement rather than amending our wage structure in the face of our experience in attracting ready to go CFs.
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The thing is, this sort of stuff is rife in football and behind the scenes he could already have verbal offers from several clubs far eclipsing what we are willing to offer him and a massive signing on fee.

Obviously there's nothing guaranteed with the above and things can change, so sometimes it's better to take the guaranteed money especially after such a bad injury, but it's naive to think there's no competition simply because he's under contract here for another 9 months.

Maybe him/his family don't enjoy it here and fancy a move elsewhere? Maybe he's reached a point where he has said he has no more interest in negotiating a deal with us and has told the club to forget it as he's leaving regardless?

There's several reasons why a deal potentially hasn't/may not be done.
 
We either offer Stewart the money he wants or come to a compromise. Failing that the club either accepts he leaves next summer for nothing and gets this season out of him hopefully scoring like a maniac or sell him at what will be maybe 5-10 million…the problem comes where we are already short of strikers and if we are going on last seasons form could or would we try and sign anyone comparable
 
The Situation said:
but it's naive to think there's no competition simply because he's under contract here for another 9 months.
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Hope I'm not naive.

I'm as aware as you are about the different shenanigans when a player is nearing the end of his contract. My point was simply that compared to Simms, Cannon and similar Champo ready CFs, there is no competitive auction in regard to a fee demanded by the selling club.
 
kildaremackem said:
an injured player is never the the bezt in a division..what has sytewaRT actually done that piroe hasnt?
And a player can be the most talented, while also not being the most valuable..thats a distinction not really recognised on here.
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Who has said an injured player is the best in a division?
Got a better GPG record than Piroe.
If you can’t see that RS is the better player then you really should be looking for another sport to wind people up about.
 
Happy_Layabout said:
I think you know what I mean. We have first shot at getting a deal with him.

There's no auction with other buying clubs offering bigger fees than we can afford (like Simms and/or Cannon for example)

Obv depend on the gap between his demands and our top offer. But the maths would be interesting to see that prove we are better off losing Stwart for nowt then having to buy his replacement rather than amending our wage structure in the face of our experience in attracting ready to go CFs.
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I’m now of the opinion that the current safc ownership are going to come out of this RS situation with egg on their faces.
 
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