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Congratulations Australia

Parkside said:
The degree of analysis available nowadays means that a way will be found pretty quickly to counteract any new method pretty quickly. The current opposition have found bazball can be nullified by the use of good class bumpers as contributors have pointed out on this thread. Logical justifiable viewpoints so why categorise them as you do in your last sentence?
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I get that point, and tbf to Australia they have played well and found a way.

And some posters have made some very valid points as yours is above.

However some of the comments on this threat quite frankly have been totally without perspective.

We have posters actually totally down playing the fact we are currently world champions in the other two formats as if they equivalent to the Johnson paint trophy!

You have others saying we have nowt to be proud off, despite taking all formats into account this is the most successful period for English cricket ever!

The balanced view is we have made some bad decisions in these last two tests when on top and take and respect that view.

But taking everything into perspective the England cricket team are currently on a run of 11 wins out of 14 tests and current world champions in the other two formats.

Without a shadow of a doubt this is the most successful period for English cricket in my lifetime not even close.

That is something to be proud of, yet all you get is constant twisting imo by certain posters.
JackL said:
I havent seen anyone suggest we go back to going at 2 an over boycott style. But surely this is a lesson that we should apply pragmatism where it’s needed? The way we've thrown our wickets away has been nothing short of a joke and that's why we're in the position we are
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Of course and totally take that point,but some perspective needed without a shadow of doubt
rentaghost said:
The current opposition are just good. The comfortably beat India who played conventional cricket. What was also proved in this match is non bazball cricket can also be nullified by good quality bouncers. It’s probably going to be much more common way of playing with the old ball. If you leave them you can’t score a run (and you can’t always leave them), if you try and defend them you can get out, if you try and play aggressively you can score runs with risk. What’s the best approach?
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There is no doubt mistakes have been made in these last two test matches by England, and it’s fair for posters to point that out.

But it’s far to early for posters to be jumping all over our new method of playing, as no guarantee against a very good side in Australia it would have been any different if played another way.

And it was absolutely fair enough imo for England to continue coming to this series to play the way that has brought them so much success over this last year.

I don’t mind and respect posters pointing out some failures in the last two tests as that fine and respect that.

But imo there is also some posters who have been waiting for this approach to fail so they could jump all over it and say we should be playing ‘ proper cricket’ whatever the fuck that means.
 
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Silly Point said:
Maybe because it's the best cricket forum around, certainly the most active, and the Palace one, much like the the Hull one, doesn't have a cricket section. The Surrey one, if there is one, might be a bit dull like the Yorkie one.

Sorry gets my back up this "you don't support Sunderland why are you here" crack
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"All these different people coming on 'ere, stealing out bandwidth, forcing their opinions on an opinion board. Send 'em all back where they came from I say, guv"
 
Voice of fair play said:
I get that point, and tbf to Australia they have played well and found a way.

And some posters have made some very valid points as yours is above.

However some of the comments on this threat quite frankly have been totally without perspective.

We have posters actually totally down playing the fact we are currently world champions in the other two formats as if they equivalent to the Johnson paint trophy!

You have others saying we have nowt to be proud off, despite taking all formats into account this is the most successful period for English cricket ever!

The balanced view is we have made some bad decisions in these last two tests when on top and take and respect that view.

But taking everything into perspective the England cricket team are currently on a run of 11 wins out of 14 tests and current world champions in the other two formats.

Without a shadow of a doubt this is the most successful period for English cricket in my lifetime not even close.

That is something to be proud of, yet all you get is constant twisting imo by certain posters.

Of course and totally take that point,but some perspective needed without a shadow of doubt

There is no doubt mistakes have been made in these last two test matches by England, and it’s fair for posters to point that out.

But it’s far to early for posters to be jumping all over our new method of playing, as no guarantee against a very good side in Australia it would have been any different if played another way.

And it was absolutely fair enough imo for England to continue coming to this series to play the way that has brought them so much success over this last year.

I don’t mind and respect posters pointing out some failures in the last two tests as that fine and respect that.

But imo there is also some posters who have been waiting for this approach to fail so they could jump all over it and say we should be playing ‘ proper cricket’ whatever the fuck that means.
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And you are not the thread police, we have mods for that job, also it doesn't give you the right to call people arseholes because you have no sense of humour
 
brandon said:
First time they’ve won the Ashes over here since 2001.

It’s over.
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I wish you hadn't done this thread.

In the slim chance we pull it back today and then go on to win the Ashes.

The Rat will be using this against you forever and I can't be arsed reading it.

So ffs Brandon why have you potentially done this to us(I still somehow believe :lol:)
 
Hongkongphooey said:
And you are not the thread police, we have mods for that job, also it doesn't give you the right to call people arseholes because you have no sense of humour
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Never call people arseholes just negative and losing sense of perspective as we very successful team recently.

Only person I have called that is you, for been more interested imo with petty childish remarks as you tend to do on most threads in my humble opinion
 
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There’s been about 20 pull shots this morning similar height to Ducketts first innings dismissal that he got absolutely hammered for. The difference in the first innings was he got a top edge. He might again but it’s a fine line between getting absolutely slaughtered and being hugely praised.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Never call people arseholes just negative and losing sense of perspective as we very successful team recently.

Only person I have called that is you, for been more interested imo with petty childish remarks
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As I said yesterday get yourself a sense of humour, its not my fault or other posters fault that England are getting beat, you should learn to laugh in the face of adversity. Check my posting history, I'm more than happy to praise England, but will call them out when they deserve it. I don't resort to abusive posts because I don't agree with a poster, it is a sign of limited intelligence. You not only called me an arsehole, you also liked a post in which another poster called me a shit stain, do you think that is acceptable behaviour on a public forum?
 
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rentaghost said:
There’s been about 20 pull shots this morning similar height to Ducketts first innings dismissal that he got absolutely hammered for. The difference in the first innings was he got a top edge. He might again but it’s a fine line between getting absolutely slaughtered and being hugely praised.
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Certainly is, just like if we got them final 2 wickets last test when they needed fifty odd.

Win that game which most would from that position and we 1 0 up and all rosy in the garden.

Lose it, different approach and criticized

Fine margins in top sport always has been
Hongkongphooey said:
As I said yesterday get yourself a sense of humour, it’s not my fault or other posters fault that England are getting beat, you should learn to laugh in the face of adversity. Check my posting history, I'm more than happy to praise England, but will call them out when they deserve it. I don't resort to abusive posts because I don't agree with a poster, it is a sign of limited intelligence. You not only called me an arsehole, you also liked a post in which another poster called me a shit stain, do you think that is acceptable behaviour on a public forum?
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Personally reading your posts on numerous threads and numerous subjects, pretty sure you get you kicks a different way and prefer wind ups than debates imo of course!
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Certainly is, just like if we got them final 2 wickets last test when they needed fifty odd.

Win that game which most would from that position and we 1 0 up and all rosy in the garden.

Lose it, different approach and criticized

Fine margins in top sport always has been

Personally reading your post on numerous threads and numerous subjects pretty sure you get you kicks a different way and prefer wind ups than debates imo of course!
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The only posters who got wound up was you and the poster who called me a shit stain, as I've said get yourself a sense of humour and try being less abusive
 
rentaghost said:
There’s been about 20 pull shots this morning similar height to Ducketts first innings dismissal that he got absolutely hammered for. The difference in the first innings was he got a top edge. He might again but it’s a fine line between getting absolutely slaughtered and being hugely praised.
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They've not been bowled high enough.

Soon as one was he's gotten out again.
 
mackembhoy said:
I wish you hadn't done this thread.

In the slim chance we pull it back today and then go on to win the Ashes.

The Rat will be using this against you forever and I can't be arsed reading it.

So ffs Brandon why have you potentially done this to us(I still somehow believe :lol:)
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Nothing would please me more ;)

When he’s on his next alter ego :lol:
 
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