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Ivan Toney


Going on like a reet whopper on social media anarl. Saying how he’s going to talk with no filter and cutting people out of his life who make false accusations against him. My brother in Christ you admitted all of the charges against you, just keep quiet and don’t be a prick for once aye.
 
Break rules……suffer the consequences.

Not enough of this straight forward reasoning/behaviour these days

should be as straightforward as that surely
 
I’ve just read he backed Brentford to lose 13 times on the bbc gossip page for tomorrows papers

I mean that is beyond a joke and what if he played in those games and missed scoring an equaliser ?


he’s a lucky lad not to be banned for life . Wonder what Brentford fans think when they read this ?
 
Ghfd said:
I’ve just read he backed Brentford to lose 13 times on the bbc gossip page for tomorrows papers

I mean that is beyond a joke and what if he played in those games and missed scoring an equaliser ?


he’s a lucky lad not to be banned for life . Wonder what Brentford fans think when they read this ?
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Bet against his own club, meaning Newcastle for 11 of them, although he was out on loan at Wigan at the time. Always read past the headline
 
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He's done an almost 2 hour podcast with Steven Bartlett.

To sum up the podcast, he reckons "someone is out to get him" and doesn't really take any responsibility or think he has done anything wrong.

Given the investigation concluded the below, he got off extremely lightly IMO:

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Ivan Toney repeatedly placed bets on matches his own team were involved in, including 13 occasions when he backed his club to lose, and gave “clearly false” answers to the investigation into his breaches of gambling rules, an independent regulatory commission has found.

The England striker has begun an eight-month ban after admitting 232 breaches of the Football Association’s rule E8, which prohibits players from gambling on football. His sanction would have been three months longer, the commission’s written reasons reveal, had Toney not been diagnosed during the investigation as having a gambling addiction.

Toney’s case is one of the most serious breaches of gambling rules that the FA has prosecuted. The commission found that 29 bets related to the club Toney was registered with or on loan with at the time. These included 13 bets on his own club to lose, although Toney was not involved in those games. In 11 cases the bets were against Newcastle while he was on loan elsewhere and the other two relate to a Wigan v Aston Villa match while he was on loan at Wigan but not in the squad.

Betting on your own team to lose can carry a life ban, as can gambling on your own performance in a match, something Toney was also found to have done.

He placed 15 bets on himself to score and 16 on his team to win. He also shared inside information on a match, used third parties to gamble on his behalf and withheld information from the investigation.
 
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The Situation said:
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He's done an almost 2 hour podcast with Steven Bartlett.

To sum up the podcast, he reckons "someone is out to get him" and doesn't really take any responsibility or think he has done anything wrong.

Given the investigation concluded the below, he got off extremely lightly IMO:

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Ivan Toney repeatedly placed bets on matches his own team were involved in, including 13 occasions when he backed his club to lose, and gave “clearly false” answers to the investigation into his breaches of gambling rules, an independent regulatory commission has found.

The England striker has begun an eight-month ban after admitting 232 breaches of the Football Association’s rule E8, which prohibits players from gambling on football. His sanction would have been three months longer, the commission’s written reasons reveal, had Toney not been diagnosed during the investigation as having a gambling addiction.

Toney’s case is one of the most serious breaches of gambling rules that the FA has prosecuted. The commission found that 29 bets related to the club Toney was registered with or on loan with at the time. These included 13 bets on his own club to lose, although Toney was not involved in those games. In 11 cases the bets were against Newcastle while he was on loan elsewhere and the other two relate to a Wigan v Aston Villa match while he was on loan at Wigan but not in the squad.

Betting on your own team to lose can carry a life ban, as can gambling on your own performance in a match, something Toney was also found to have done.

He placed 15 bets on himself to score and 16 on his team to win. He also shared inside information on a match, used third parties to gamble on his behalf and withheld information from the investigation.
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So he was betting on the Mags to lose while they’d sent him on loan? 🤣
If I’m reading that right that means he was angry with them and thinking “f you you useless black and white pricks”
 
The Situation said:
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He's done an almost 2 hour podcast with Steven Bartlett.

To sum up the podcast, he reckons "someone is out to get him" and doesn't really take any responsibility or think he has done anything wrong.

Given the investigation concluded the below, he got off extremely lightly IMO:

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Ivan Toney repeatedly placed bets on matches his own team were involved in, including 13 occasions when he backed his club to lose, and gave “clearly false” answers to the investigation into his breaches of gambling rules, an independent regulatory commission has found.

The England striker has begun an eight-month ban after admitting 232 breaches of the Football Association’s rule E8, which prohibits players from gambling on football. His sanction would have been three months longer, the commission’s written reasons reveal, had Toney not been diagnosed during the investigation as having a gambling addiction.

Toney’s case is one of the most serious breaches of gambling rules that the FA has prosecuted. The commission found that 29 bets related to the club Toney was registered with or on loan with at the time. These included 13 bets on his own club to lose, although Toney was not involved in those games. In 11 cases the bets were against Newcastle while he was on loan elsewhere and the other two relate to a Wigan v Aston Villa match while he was on loan at Wigan but not in the squad.

Betting on your own team to lose can carry a life ban, as can gambling on your own performance in a match, something Toney was also found to have done.

He placed 15 bets on himself to score and 16 on his team to win. He also shared inside information on a match, used third parties to gamble on his behalf and withheld information from the investigation.
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Listened to this yesterday, Comes across as a proper thickie saying he wasn't aware that footballers weren't allowed to bet.
 
The Situation said:
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He's done an almost 2 hour podcast with Steven Bartlett.

To sum up the podcast, he reckons "someone is out to get him" and doesn't really take any responsibility or think he has done anything wrong.

Given the investigation concluded the below, he got off extremely lightly IMO:

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Ivan Toney repeatedly placed bets on matches his own team were involved in, including 13 occasions when he backed his club to lose, and gave “clearly false” answers to the investigation into his breaches of gambling rules, an independent regulatory commission has found.

The England striker has begun an eight-month ban after admitting 232 breaches of the Football Association’s rule E8, which prohibits players from gambling on football. His sanction would have been three months longer, the commission’s written reasons reveal, had Toney not been diagnosed during the investigation as having a gambling addiction.

Toney’s case is one of the most serious breaches of gambling rules that the FA has prosecuted. The commission found that 29 bets related to the club Toney was registered with or on loan with at the time. These included 13 bets on his own club to lose, although Toney was not involved in those games. In 11 cases the bets were against Newcastle while he was on loan elsewhere and the other two relate to a Wigan v Aston Villa match while he was on loan at Wigan but not in the squad.

Betting on your own team to lose can carry a life ban, as can gambling on your own performance in a match, something Toney was also found to have done.

He placed 15 bets on himself to score and 16 on his team to win. He also shared inside information on a match, used third parties to gamble on his behalf and withheld information from the investigation.
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Sounds like a lucky lad to me. Based on the above he deserves a much longer ban.
 
The Fitter said:
He placed 15 bets on himself to score and 16 on his team to win.

I can't see the issue with that part.
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You can't draw an arbitrary line in the sand when it comes to betting though.
Also he has friends in the game, what's to say he didn't put the bet on for another player who was playing for the opposition for their team to lose? An extreme example but when it comes to betting you can't just say "these ones are okay, those aren't", because any kind of betting can infer interference.
 
I listened. He claimed he didn't know, because no one in football educates players, that you couldn't bet on football.

I am not sure I believe him
 
Shambo said:
I listened. He claimed he didn't know, because no one in football educates players, that you couldn't bet on football.

I am not sure I believe him
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Bits I’ve listened to sound like he can’t wait to get back in his local Betfred 🤣
 
Shambo said:
I listened. He claimed he didn't know, because no one in football educates players, that you couldn't bet on football.

I am not sure I believe him
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One of his defenses during the podcast was literally, and I quote: "it's my money, I should be able to spend it how I want"

He's talking out of his arse because it is made very clear to all footballers each season about what they can and can't do with regards to betting.

Then later in the podcast he goes from saying he didn't realise you couldn't bet, to it then being a "grey area, where some players said to me you can and some said you can't".

Bartlett wasn't even really trying to grill him (as that's not the nature of his podcast) and was very soft on him but still made mincemeat out of him with his questions without intending to, so you can imagine how Toney came across during the investigation!

One of the worst things he could have done was that podcast as he has made himself look 10 times worse. People had started to forget about it and move on at this point but now it's back on the back pages again.
 
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