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The Safety of Fans in the North Stand

McGregor said:
Objects thrown from across are far more likely to be less serious in causing injuries than ones thrown from such a height.. You're reducing the risk.. You can't stop the risk, it's nigh on impossible.. The club need to do all they can to reduce the risk and they haven't don't a single tjing
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The club will look at the amount of time away fans have been up there compared to the amount of injuries that have occurred from them being up there and established the risk is already minimal I'd expect.
 

CaptainRed said:
Lad a few posts up sits in the North Stand and agrees with me.

And you saying the club should be stripped of their safety certificate is absolutely pathetic. SoL is one of the safest stadiums in the country.
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Nothing safe about sitting in the north stand. We’ve got 2 kids who could not be here today had things happened slightly differently. Calling it safe is an absolute disgrace.

The clubs own safety officer has said there is a safety requirement to put a net up. They are in contravention with their own safety officers legal advice. The club is an absolute disgrace
 
CaptainRed said:
The club will look at the amount of time away fans have been up there compared to the amount of injuries that have occurred from them being up there and established the risk is already minimal I'd expect.
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You're still missing the point to be honest so I'm going to leave it at that. The club are actively waiting for something serious to happen before dealing with the issue at hand. I find that to be on the negligent side.
 
TravellingMackem said:
You really are acting the bellend on here mate. Against Coventry a flare was thrown and broke a seat (NS seat 29 row 9) - in that seat not 2 minutes before was a kid in nappies - so couldn’t have been more than 2/3 year old. Reckon that kids head would have done well against the flare that would have hit him had he not went for a very well timed bag of chips?

The club was tiny details away from a massive tragedy. There’s a similar report of something happening with a glass bottle this season. It is only a matter of time (at both our ground and elsewhere) before someone, probably a kid or vulnerable person, is seriously injured or worse at a football match due to idiots who think throwing shit from a massive height is acceptable.

I’ve reported this to the club and Steve Neil (who needs to resign frankly - should be disgusted with the “job” he’s doing) multiple times, so when something does unfortunately happen there is a portfolio of evidence to take the club to court, which I will make available to anyone who needs it. I know many others at supporters associations and things have done the same. I’ve warned the club many times and so have many others - this is just negligent on their part now and they should be stripped of their safety certificate tbh.
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It’s disgusting that our own fans are unsafe watching a game at home. Heads should roll. Does the club really care?
 
McGregor said:
Are you being intentionally stupid? Or are you just totally oblivious to the point? What if it had been one kid injured in those 10 years? Is not that one too many? My lads mate who is 9 had a vape pen hit him on the head from the away fans. But tell you what, next home match right, I'll head up to the premier concourse, you can sit right below me in the lower bowl. I'll throw an object like a vape, and if it hits you on the head, feel free to let me know how that felt from such a distance. Please don't forget to let me know.

I'm fairly certain you'd have a different approach if it was you the one who was hit by am object. Fact is there's been far too many incidents with objects thrown, and a lot of them since league one days. It needs knocking on the head as the club are seriously lucky that smoke bomb landed in the first row of the away end rather than several feet below onto some ones head.

Club are walking an extremely tight rope at the minute and the away fans need moved to the lower bowl as the quickest possible opportunity.
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And of course the club did a review, and announced the review meant they would need to move fans from the north upper due to safety concerns, then at a later date announced they weren’t actually going to go to the bother 😂
 
McGregor said:
That's the scary thing.. They've literally decided not to change a thing after so many incidents in the past 4 years or so.
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They’ve got a head safety officer staying a net is needed and an internal safety review saying away fans need moving but they just decided they can’t be arsed so are just going to ban money from the ground instead. They even banned paper for the Boro game.

It’s absolutely laughable.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
They’ve got a head safety officer staying a net is needed and an internal safety review saying away fans need moving but they just decided they can’t be arsed so are just going to ban money from the ground instead. They even banned paper for the Boro game.

It’s absolutely laughable.
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There seems to be security people at the club, but no proper health and safety people.
 
CaptainRed said:
You are safer sitting in the North Stand than you are getting to and from the match or being in the pub beforehand. The club aren't going to spend a fortune on fixing a problem that isn't really there, and tbf to them, they haven't.


Best of luck!
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I'll need it believe me, the kebabs guaranteed but I don't know about the other 🤣🤣🤣
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
They’ve got a head safety officer staying a net is needed and an internal safety review saying away fans need moving but they just decided they can’t be arsed so are just going to ban money from the ground instead. They even banned paper for the Boro game.

It’s absolutely laughable.
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Nah they'll do the academic behavioural research and it'll all be sound man.
No need for a net at all
 
TravellingMackem said:
Nothing safe about sitting in the north stand. We’ve got 2 kids who could not be here today had things happened slightly differently. Calling it safe is an absolute disgrace.

The clubs own safety officer has said there is a safety requirement to put a net up. They are in contravention with their own safety officers legal advice. The club is an absolute disgrace
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Club can't win really. If they move the away fans the police and safety committee would insist on putting them back in the South Stand then everyone would kick off that the only area of the stadium that makes any noise is being broken up.
 
CaptainRed said:
Club can't win really. If they move the away fans the police and safety committee would insist on putting them back in the South Stand then everyone would kick off that the only area of the stadium that makes any noise is being broken up.
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They’ll certainly won’t win when someone is killed due to the clubs obsession with not spending money
soapster said:
does anybody condemn the person who took the item in and throw it
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doesnt deserve an answer
 
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If we had a better defence and didn’t concede any goals we’d have none of this bollocks to worry about,
 
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samaistonsrightfoot said:
And of course the club did a review, and announced the review meant they would need to move fans from the north upper due to safety concerns, then at a later date announced they weren’t actually going to go to the bother 😂
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This is exactly what I find mental.

I remember the initial review throwing that the best course of action was to move them down into the lower level so I was absolutely baffled by the last announcement with the conclusion that the best course of action was to do nothing?!

I honestly don’t know how anyone can defend the club with it & sadly I think the only way things change is when someone is badly burned or hurt when they are inevitably hit by something and I honestly hope they sue the club to f***ing bits.

Steve Davison is hugely unfit for the role, this is the main thing to takeaway from this & that’s not even taking in consideration the problems with the Ticket Office/phone lines/club shop/lack of kit etc.
 
CaptainRed said:
I'm yet to know of a single person who has claimed money off SAFC for injuries at either Roker Park or the SoL. Show me otherwise.
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You do realise that most out of court settlements are made with a non disclosure agreement?

And to put things into context, will you be happy to sit in the area which has had the most near misses, for the whole of next season?
 
CaptainRed said:
Club can't win really. If they move the away fans the police and safety committee would insist on putting them back in the South Stand then everyone would kick off that the only area of the stadium that makes any noise is being broken up.
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Yet no one would be at risk of dying if they moved seats, which is more than can be said for those sat in the north stand getting pelted with metal objects from 300 feet above.

I’m sure the club are more than capable of moving people around to please everyone. Put the away fans in the SWC and keep the south stand together. That’s how the stadium was designed initially with the segregation in place down there, cells, stadium control, etc., all in place for the incidents to be in that area of the stadium.
Henry_Hill said:
Couldn’t just throw things to the home fans at the side of them though?
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Throwing something 10 yards sideways is significantly less dangerous than throwing something from 300+ feet up into the air onto people that can’t see it coming, and you know that.
 
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