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KathyBatesHammer said:
We didnt spend too much under Short, we spent too much on shite.

A new manager every season wanting his own players/ a new hair brained scheme from Short EG the Udinese model.

The problem was not how much we spent but what we spent it on.

The clubs in the best position its been in since Keanes first season.
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He also put footballing dunces like Byrne and Difanti in powerful positions who drained many more millions out of the club due to incompetence.

Safc were apparently the 7th biggest spenders in Britain over a 8 year period under Short. Scandalous that wasted money led to league 1 for 4 seasons.
 
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KathyBatesHammer said:
We didnt spend too much under Short, we spent too much on shite.

A new manager every season wanting his own players/ a new hair brained scheme from Short EG the Udinese model.

The problem was not how much we spent but what we spent it on.

The clubs in the best position its been in since Keanes first season.
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we spent way more than we could afford
 
KathyBatesHammer said:
We didnt spend too much under Short, we spent too much on shite.

A new manager every season wanting his own players/ a new hair brained scheme from Short EG the Udinese model.

The problem was not how much we spent but what we spent it on.

The clubs in the best position its been in since Keanes first season.
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It would have been ok if we'd sold players for even close to what we bought them for but the money lost on Fletcher, Johnson, Khazri, Lens, Kone, Rodwell, Alvarez etc etc etc meant we were fucked. Think Short had good intentions but he made some terrible decisions.
 
kildaremackem said:
we spent way more than we could afford
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I agree but on the other hand if we spent that money on good players we could have been top half rather than battling relegation.

More prize money, more tv money, more sponsorhip, more merchandise sales, more ticket revenue. More profit on player sales rather than buying someone for £8million and letting them leave on free's.

The problem was spending the money on the wrong players. Sacking managers every season then buying players for the new manager then sacking them and so on. Stupid schemes going out and buying 10 players for cheap who never got a sniff of first team footy, taking up wages then leaving on free's.
 
Wayne The Punk said:
Booked in Watford with a cancellation option. Talking to a lad in The Cooper Rose on Saturday who has done the same
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I love the optimism - only way to be imo😀👍
Wayne The Punk said:
Booked in Watford with a cancellation option. Talking to a lad in The Cooper Rose on Saturday who has done the same
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Stayed in Watford for charlton play-off final - canny night out.
 
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ChrisK said:
Milwall probably finish higher come end of season but they awful to watch agree enjoying our style we currently playing.
5 games in December if we can get bit more bite in midfield with players coming back we could be in decent position turn of year
it’s exciting times another trip to Wembley would be brill
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They have a couple of decent players both full backs in particular but it was noticeable that we have players that can get you on the edge of your seat they seemed to be grafters
 
MSC said:
He also put footballing dunces like Byrne and Difanti in powerful positions who drained many more millions out of the club due to incompetence.

Safc were apparently the 7th biggest spenders in Britain over a 8 year period under Short. Scandalous that wasted money led to league 1 for 4 seasons.
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byrne was appointed by niall quinn i think?
KathyBatesHammer said:
I agree but on the other hand if we spent that money on good players we could have been top half rather than battling relegation.

More prize money, more tv money, more sponsorhip, more merchandise sales, more ticket revenue. More profit on player sales rather than buying someone for £8million and letting them leave on free's.

The problem was spending the money on the wrong players. Sacking managers every season then buying players for the new manager then sacking them and so on. Stupid schemes going out and buying 10 players for cheap who never got a sniff of first team footy, taking up wages then leaving on free's.
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obviously spending money on better players would have helped,,,but so would having a proper commercial operation..scouts that werent corrupt etc..
we could have spent half what we did and bing top half regulars and in a better financial state.
 
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kildaremackem said:
we spent way more than we could afford
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The thing with affordability is that if you spend well it will often be affordable in the long run whether it’s a dishwasher or a footballer. For example my Miele washing machine cost almost 1000 pounds but I’ve had it for about 17 years and it’s never gone wrong. In the ten years or so prior I had to buy three or four washing machines that totalled about 1400. The Miele was bloody expensive, more than I’d ever spent on a car never mind a washing machine but has proven ultimately to be very good value, cheap even.
 
kildaremackem said:
short appointed a director of football operations who had never worked in football a day in his life prior to joining, and hasnt worked in football since. So not surprising our scouting was terrible..in truth the club wildly over acheieved during that time given the incompetence of the people running it
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Scorer said:
The thing with affordability is that if you spend well it will often be affordable in the long run whether it’s a dishwasher or a footballer. For example my Miele washing machine cost almost 1000 pounds but I’ve had it for about 17 years and it’s never gone wrong. In the ten years or so prior I had to buy three or four washing machines that totalled about 1400. The Miele was bloody expensive, more than I’d ever spent on a car never mind a washing machine but has proven ultimately to be very good value, cheap even.
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all valid points..but buying the mroe expesnive..albeit better value one..requires one to have the cash in the first place..which safc never really did...
 
Scorer said:
The thing with affordability is that if you spend well it will often be affordable in the long run whether it’s a dishwasher or a footballer. For example my Miele washing machine cost almost 1000 pounds but I’ve had it for about 17 years and it’s never gone wrong. In the ten years or so prior I had to buy three or four washing machines that totalled about 1400. The Miele was bloody expensive, more than I’d ever spent on a car never mind a washing machine but has proven ultimately to be very good value, cheap even.
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my mother had a poss tub and a hand operated wringer for 25 years, never broke down and i think she got it given so cost nowt, then she bought a twin tub with an electric wringer attached for 25 quid which broke down after 15 years, see quality gets worse through the years, things are just not made to last anymore.
 
kildaremackem said:
all valid points..but buying the mroe expesnive..albeit better value one..requires one to have the cash in the first place..which safc never really did...
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Borrowing is fine if you get a return on it.
Dundas street kid said:
my mother had a poss tub and a hand operated wringer for 25 years, never broke down and i think she got it given so cost nowt, then she bought a twin tub with an electric wringer attached for 25 quid which broke down after 15 years, see quality gets worse through the years, things are just not made to last anymore.
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No money in things that last ages.
 
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