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Put a flat earthier into space

Lie on the ground and you can see it. Stand up and you can't. Err, hang on, no, its at eye level. Stand straight to attention or you can't see the horizon.

By the way, I've a sneaky feeling this light projector is going to make a little bit of the sun go away next Tuesday. Don't ask how or why, just don't get too freaked out if it happens.
 

The Snockerty Friddle said:
He does a good demo explaining how the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere and both Sun and Moon set in different directions using a globe and a tiny camera

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It is one thing I have repeated a lot on this thread. Stick a camera to a ball and rotate it. You will see the same effect we see with stars rotating and the moon. You will also se the effect where polaris gets lower as you approach the equator. It is simple, repeatable and easy for anyone to try themselves if only they open their minds and for a moment free themselves of the narrative they are religiously subscribed to.

It perfectly mimics what we observe, showing the globe model works. You can not repeat this with a dome.

Naturally all flat earthers refuse to try this, because it shatters their fantasy.
 
RichB said:
Can I ask do you believe in alien life forms and UFO's?
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Alien life forms, yes.
UFO's, also yes.
RichB said:
Can't recall where I read it but there was an article about people who believe in these alternative facts ( conspiracy theories) often believe in several things that completely contradict each other.
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Such as?
RichB said:
So if a flat earther believes in aliens and a cover up I have no idea how these two belief systems can co-exist
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It depends on how you think of it against how I think of it.
If you mean by me offering aliens from space I say doesn't exist in how they tell us, then you're on the wrong track.
Let's make it clear. I don't believe aliens come through a space vacuum from another floating planet into our Earth but that doesn't rule out other alien lifeforms already here and also in attached Earths.

Most people don't take the time to go that far as they spend too much of it thinking of a spinning ball in a space vacuum to give it any thought, which is fair enough.
3.142 said:
Lie on the ground and you can see it. Stand up and you can't. Err, hang on, no, its at eye level. Stand straight to attention or you can't see the horizon.

By the way, I've a sneaky feeling this light projector is going to make a little bit of the sun go away next Tuesday. Don't ask how or why, just don't get too freaked out if it happens.
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You always see the horizon on clear enough days.
This is why you always see the horizon whether you lie on the ground or stand up or go up a tower or fly in a plane. You see this because you're not on a globe. That's the point.
taipeisafc said:
Similar to all of your posts then
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Whatever you think. I'm just doing the same kind of thing with you so you're more than welcome.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
You always see the horizon on clear enough days.
This is why you always see the horizon whether you lie on the ground or stand up or go up a tower or fly in a plane. You see this because you're not on a globe. That's the point.
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So the point is, that you always see the horizon...
Nukehasslefan said:
This is exactly why there cannot be any horizon. That's the point. And being in a plane at height makes the situation worse for global arguing.
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Oh wait... the point is that there cannot be a horizon....
Nukehasslefan said:
Not at all. I have some serious logical evidence for Earth not being a globe.
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Define logical.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Can't have any because Earth is not a globe we live upon.
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You're falling apart man, earlier you said the horizon is always at eye level, now there's no such thing.
There is a horizon precisely because we live on a globe. If you were in the middle of a vast and still ocean the horizon would be all around you in a big circle because we are on a globe. It wouldn't matter if you were floating at the surface or hovering a mile above it, the horizon is still there. You have some shit arguments but this is one of the worst.
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
You're falling apart man, earlier you said the horizon is always at eye level, now there's no such thing.
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No such thing for a globe.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
There is a horizon precisely because we live on a globe.
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Impossible to happen. Absolutely impossible.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
If you were in the middle of a vast and still ocean the horizon would be all around you in a big circle because we are on a globe.
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Nope. You could never have any horizon on a globe.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
It wouldn't matter if you were floating at the surface or hovering a mile above it, the horizon is still there. You have some shit arguments but this is one of the worst.
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The arguments are far from what you say. The arguments are pretty plain and simple. Your downward curvature could never offer any horizon whether looking level out to sea or up a tower or in a plane.

Just another simple and logical destruction of the global storyline.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
No such thing for a globe.

Impossible to happen. Absolutely impossible.

Nope. You could never have any horizon on a globe.

The arguments are far from what you say. The arguments are pretty plain and simple. Your downward curvature could never offer any horizon whether looking level out to sea or up a tower or in a plane.

Just another simple and logical destruction of the global storyline.
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More 24 carat bollocks.

I noticed you've conveniently ignored the pilot's video of the sunrise.
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
You're falling apart man, earlier you said the horizon is always at eye level, now there's no such thing.
There is a horizon precisely because we live on a globe. If you were in the middle of a vast and still ocean the horizon would be all around you in a big circle because we are on a globe. It wouldn't matter if you were floating at the surface or hovering a mile above it, the horizon is still there. You have some shit arguments but this is one of the worst.
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There are clearly multiple horizons.

I'm quite tall, but someone in my team at work is much taller than me. My son is far smaller and my dog smaller still. Eye level is different for all of us, let we can all see the horizon. The only sane conclusion is that we all see different horizons and they are personal to us. But as previously said, we could not see the horizon if we stood on a box, because we are no longer at eye level. If I stood on a box to reach the height of my colleague or my son stood on a box to reach my height, no horizon for us.

The dictionary states the horizon is (sorry for the messy cut and paste below). This doesn't agree with what is being said above. I suspect that horizon is another of those words, like density and mass, he has redefined to mean something else and all this argument is because we are literally talking a different language. The last definition is interesting "limit of knowledge". We have seen plenty of that in this discussion:

the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet.
"the sun rose above the horizon"
Similar:skyline,range of vision,field of view
  • the circular boundary of the part of the earth's surface visible from a particular point, ignoring irregularities and obstructions.
    noun: apparent horizon; noun: visible horizon
  • Astronomy
    a great circle of the celestial sphere, the plane of which passes through the centre of the earth and is parallel to that of the apparent horizon of a place.
    noun: true horizon
  • 2.
    the limit of a person's knowledge, experience, or interest.
    "she wanted to leave home and broaden her horizons"


 
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