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Put a flat earthier into space


I’ve skipped a few pages as it seems the same arguments are going round.

I’d like to know how old you think our earth is @Nukehasslefan
I have no real idea. Not billions or even million of years old that's for sure, imo.
Wrong. Like has been said a thousand times on this thread. There is masses of independently verified proof for all the conventional science that has been raised on this thread.
There is no proof for any of the stuff being argued.
There are many stories and weak circumstantial evidence, but no proof, at all.
You can argue that all you want but you are in the same boat. You cannot verify what you're arguing for.
Different branches of study have arrived at the same conclusions and then of course the biggy, we have been into space and actually looked.
We've been to certain heights and looked.
We have not been into any space vacuum and looked back at a rotating oblate spheroid.
What we have is masses of proof independently verified but you dismiss out of hand without good reason or proof against any of it, except it doesn’t feel right.
It's not a case of it not feeling right. There's plenty of evidence that is stronger than anything offered for a globe, in my opinion.
You know the simplest with water.
You can also add in rockets being unable to work outside of the atmosphere into what you claim (on the back of stories) to be a vacuum.

The gunk told as to how they supposedly work outside of dense atmosphere is rather amusing in one respect but it's a hell of a story.

And which means millions of people are covering up the truth with the entire space program an elaborate hoax just for a giggle to fool people - or it is just simply reality.
We've been through this. Millions of people can champion the stories but they do not have to be in on any lies.
It simply comes down to a belief in a story and a belief and acceptance of what that story depicts and why.
That story then becomes their expertise even if they do not know the reality of it.

Millions in on it or millions duped? I know which side you go with and I'm sure you know mine.
That is up against something invented in your own head, verified by nobody, not even yourself and where the fantasy physics just doesn’t work or is easily disproven.
None of that is up against my musings.
The global story is an argument in itself. It does not need anything from my musing.
As I said many times before. I do not offer anything of mine as a fact.
This is why you can’t even do something simple like provide a map.
Something simple like providing a map?
Take away your globe and what do you have?

If I ask you to draw me a map, what are you going to use?
 
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The problem Newcastle Lad has is that he thinks his brain state is logical but he's actually one of those people out there who can't connect the dots correctly and sees something in nothing. I don't think he is necessarily stupid but has intentionally wired his brain up is a messed-up fashion because of the youtube brainwashing.

It's a shame the internet has allowed this to become a bigger thein than it ever should. It could be very dangerous for society at large as the lies can lead to tragic events, such as people dying when the anti-vax stuff is perpetuated. Newcastle Fan types are so dangerous for a lot of people if the conspiracy is more directly linked to the day to day lives of people, i.e., politics and health.

His type has invented the culture war, invented woke, stoked up division, and in the UK's case made the place poorer through Brexit. It's quite annoying that the loud shouty voice of the minority have duped so many into voting against their interests in this respect.
 
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The problem Newcastle Lad has is that he thinks his brain state is logical but he's actually one of those people out there who can't connect the dots correctly and sees something in nothing. I don't think he is necessarily stupid but has intentionally wired his brain up is a messed-up fashion because of the youtube brainwashing.

It's a shame the internet has allowed this to become a bigger thein than it ever should. It could be very dangerous for society at large as the lies can lead to tragic events, such as people dying when the anti-vax stuff is perpetuated. Newcastle Fan types are so dangerous for a lot of people if the conspiracy is more directly linked to the day to day lives of people, i.e., politics and health.

His type has invented the culture war, invented woke, stoked up division, and in the UK's case made the place poorer through Brexit. It's quite annoying that the loud shouty voice of the minority have duped so many into voting against their interests in this respect.
Maybe calming down and not getting into a frenzy over chat on a forum might help you.
Like a poker player going all in but refusing to show his hands.

What is an Ace?
As in a card or something else?
Did you know who Henry the VIII is?
As in a king?
 
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We've been through this. Millions of people can champion the stories but they do not have to be in on any lies.
It simply comes down to a belief in a story and a belief and acceptance of what that story depicts and why.
That story then becomes their expertise even if they do not know the reality of it.
How do, mate? I'm new to this thread and having skimmed through it I am at a bit of a loss. You obviously have a belief that everyone involved in any space programme is part of the 'lies' or misdirection us globe-y types have all fallen into the trap of believing. So, take NASA. Must've employed many thousands over the years. They're all in on the gag right? They all go home sworn to secrecy every day and take this secret to the grave?

You believe that, or something similar?
 
How do, mate? I'm new to this thread and having skimmed through it I am at a bit of a loss. You obviously have a belief that everyone involved in any space programme is part of the 'lies' or misdirection us globe-y types have all fallen into the trap of believing. So, take NASA. Must've employed many thousands over the years. They're all in on the gag right? They all go home sworn to secrecy every day and take this secret to the grave?

You believe that, or something similar?
Hollywood sends actors home after selling us their fiction and do you think those actors are sworn to secrecy?
 
We know the distances work on a globe because they are flown regularly.
Maybe they are maybe they aren't but that's not my argument.
My argument is how are they measured?

I'll make this easier seeing as you want to use maps and distances.
How would you start out mapping your globe?
They work on a scale model of a globe too.
Of course, it's called being tailor-made.
They don't work on a disc map
Of course not, to you, because the globe is a tailor-made effort.
 
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